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Ch. 13: Motion for Relief From Codebtor Stay
But it is still the same case. Without knowing details if one needs protection from the other then their seems to be some type of adversarial situation between the two. Hence, a reason to bifricate. BUT AGAIN JUST TALKING OUTLOUD.
Date: 05/22/2014 10:55 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Ch. 13: Motion for Relief From Codebtor Stay
I said codebtor, not joint debtor.
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On 5/22/2014 10:36 AM, 'Leventhal Law Group, P.C.' law@3yl.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
I am just talking outloud but in order to do that I would think you need to bifricate the debtors into seperate cases.
Date: 05/22/2014 10:34 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cdcbaa] Ch. 13: Motion for Relief From Codebtor Stay
Anyone here ever done or seen a MRS to get relief against the codebtor stay (to proceed against a codebtor)?
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But it is still the same case. Without knowing details if one needs protection from the other then their seems to be some type of adversarial situation between the two. Hence, a reason to bifricate. BUT AGAIN JUST TALKING OUTLOUD.
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Date: 05/22/2014 10:55 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Ch. 13: Motion for Relief From Codebtor Stay
I said codebtor, not joint debtor.
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On 5/22/2014 10:36 AM, 'Leventhal Law Group, P.C.'
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I am just talking outloud but in order to do that I would think you need to bifricate the debtors into seperate cases.
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Wouldn't the Co-debtor have a claim against the debtor? Do any of the post petition claim rules apply or would this be considered a prepetition debt?
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On Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:16 AM, "'Mark J. Markus' bklawr@yahoo.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
No. It's apparently very common for student loan agencies to seek relief from stay against codebtors in Ch. 13 cases to thwart the (frequently) main reason the Ch. 13 is filed: to get the stay.
On what basis could the codebtor collect from the
debtor--particularly in a bankruptcy context?
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On 5/22/2014 11:05 AM, Catherine Christiansen christiansenlaw@yahoo.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
right. co-debtor. who will go after the debtor to collect if the collection company attempts to collect against the co-debtor, which is why there is a special stay for co-debtors when the debtor is in a chapter 13. Am I missing something in your fact pattern?
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>No. But I would think it would go against the purpose of the co-debtor stay which is to keep the debtor free from financial pressure from the co-debtor. Just my 2Cents.
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>I am just talking outloud but in order to do that I would think you need to bifricate the debtors into seperate cases.
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>Anyone here ever done or seen a MRS to get relief against the codebtor stay (to proceed against a codebtor)?
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right. co-debtor. who will go after the debtor to collect if the collection company attempts to collect against the co-debtor, which is why there is a special stay for co-debtors when the debtor is in a chapter 13. Am I missing something in your fact pattern?
Law Office of Catherine Christiansen
17011 Beach Blvd. Ste 900, Huntington Beach, CA 92647
Tel: (714) 375-6651 Fax: (562) 490-8572
attorneychristiansen@gmail.com
On Thursday, May 22, 2014 10:56 AM, "Catherine Christiansen christiansenlaw@yahoo.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
No. But I would think it would go against the purpose of the co-debtor stay which is to keep the debtor free from financial pressure from the co-debtor. Just my 2Cents.
Law Office of Catherine Christiansen
17011 Beach Blvd. Ste 900, Huntington Beach, CA 92647
Tel: (714) 375-6651 Fax: (562) 490-8572
attorneychristiansen@gmail.com
On Thursday, May 22, 2014 10:36 AM, "'Leventhal Law Group, P.C.' law@3yl.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
I am just talking outloud but in order to do that I would think you need to bifricate the debtors into seperate cases.
Date: 05/22/2014 10:34 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cdcbaa] Ch. 13: Motion for Relief From Codebtor Stay
Anyone here ever done or seen a MRS to get relief against the codebtor stay (to proceed against a codebtor)?
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Mark J. Markus
Law Office of Mark J. Markus
Mailing Address Only:
11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
Studio City, CA 91604-2652
(818)509-1173 (818)509-1460 (fax)
web: http://www.bklaw.com/
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This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency
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Yes. I will send you a copy off of the listserv.
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On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:34 AM, 'Mark J. Markus' bklawr@yahoo.com[cdcbaa]
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> stay (to proceed against a codebtor)?
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Yes. I will send you a copy off of the listserv.Clifford BordeauxBordeaux Law, P.C.3731 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 600Los Angeles, CA 90010
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No. But I would think it would go against the purpose of the co-debtor stay which is to keep the debtor free from financial pressure from the co-debtor. Just my 2Cents.
Law Office of Catherine Christiansen
17011 Beach Blvd. Ste 900, Huntington Beach, CA 92647
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On Thursday, May 22, 2014 10:36 AM, "'Leventhal Law Group, P.C.' law@3yl.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
I am just talking outloud but in order to do that I would think you need to bifricate the debtors into seperate cases.
Date: 05/22/2014 10:34 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cdcbaa] Ch. 13: Motion for Relief From Codebtor Stay
Anyone here ever done or seen a MRS to get relief against the codebtor stay (to proceed against a codebtor)?
*************************
Mark J. Markus
Law Office of Mark J. Markus
Mailing Address Only:
11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
Studio City, CA 91604-2652
(818)509-1173 (818)509-1460 (fax)
web: http://www.bklaw.com/
Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization
This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency
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I am just talking outloud but in order to do that I would think you need to bifricate the debtors into seperate cases.
Date: 05/22/2014 10:34 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cdcbaa] Ch. 13: Motion for Relief From Codebtor Stay
Anyone here ever done or seen a MRS to get relief against the codebtor stay (to proceed against a codebtor)?
*************************
Mark J. Markus
Law Office of Mark J. Markus
Mailing Address Only:
11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
Studio City, CA 91604-2652
(818)509-1173 (818)509-1460 (fax)
web: http://www.bklaw.com/
Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization
This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency
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I am just talking outloud but in order to do that I would think you need to bifricate the debtors into seperate cases.
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Date: 05/22/2014 10:34 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cdcbaa] Ch. 13: Motion for Relief From Codebtor Stay
Anyone here ever done or seen a MRS to get relief against the codebtor stay (to proceed against a codebtor)?
*************************
Mark J. Markus
Law Office of Mark J. Markus
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11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
Studio City, CA 91604-2652
(818)509-1173 (818)509-1460 (fax)
web: http://www.bklaw.com/
Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization
This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency
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