Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability

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Ok, Mike, that is why I raised the question. As long as the case law sticks to the filing date we will have predictable exemptions. Since the six month rule is part of the statute, a rule that you have to wait six months make sense, but just extrapolating to lots of other contingencies, will not likely become part of the code.
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Dennis McGoldrick, 350 S. Crenshaw Bl., #A207B, Torrance, Ca 90503 310-328-1001-voice
> On Jul 17, 2014, at 7:21 PM, "Michael Avanesian michael@avanesianlaw.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
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> This is an interesting issue. According to the snapshot rule, the homestead exemption is a vested interest subject to divestment. You get it for 6 months and you lose it if you do not protect it.
>
> What about the amount?
>
> Ex1. Debtor is 40 years old married to a 70 year old non-debtor spouse. Debtor is entitled to 175k exemption as long as he is married. If marriage is dissolved i.e. death or divorce, the exemption drops down to 75k. What happens if Debtor reinvests 175k in a new homestead. Wife dies and now he is only entitled to 75k, does the 100k that is no longer exempt get sucked into the Estate? Or is he entitled to the amount as of petition date?
>
> Ex2. Debtor is "disabled" in such a way that he cannot obtain substantial gainful employment. He is entitled to 175k exemption. Sometime after petition date (say 1 week), he recovers. He is now only entitled to 75k exemption. Or is he entitled to amount as of petition date?
>
> These exemptions all have a contingent remainder feel to them. You get the exemption but it's conditioned on (Ex1) remaining married or (Ex2) remaining disabled at the time the sale is to occur: 704.730(a)(3) - "(3) One hundred seventy-five thousand dollars ($175,000) ... at the time of the attempted sale." This language seems like the intent of the California legislature is to provide the exemption only so long as the contingency continues to be satisfied.
>
> I know something is wrong with my analysis but I can't put my finger on it. The reason I say something is wrong is because in Chapter 11, I have seen Debtors retain their homestead exemption on a home even if they move out before the house is sold; apparently because their homestead is locked in on the Petition Date. Maybe Jacobson changed all this. I don't know how much reliance one can have on pre-Jacobson law.
>
> Sincerely,
> Michael Avanesian
>
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Frank Ruggier frank@pricelawgroup.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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>> Maybe the disability only needs to last as long as the homestead exemption, 6 months. LOL.
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>> You want to argue that for me Dennis? Ill find a case for you. lol
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>> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
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>> In light of the new 9th Cir case about the six month reinvestment requirement, I wonder if the 9th Cir would add a requirement that the disability be permanent?
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>> Dennis McGoldrick, 350 S. Crenshaw Bl., #A207B, Torrance, Ca 90503 310-328-1001-voice
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>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:48 PM, "Giovanni Orantes go@gobklaw.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
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>> Thank you, Larry.
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 12:39 PM, "Larry Simons larry@lsimonslaw.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
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>> There are several Neff cases. Try this link:
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>> http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case? ... as_sdt2006
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>> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
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>> In re Neff does not discuss ccp 704.730.
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>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Larry Simons larry@lsimonslaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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>> Neff v. Denoce (In re Neff, 2014 Bankr. LEXIS 471, *25 (9th Cir. BAP 2014).
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>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:35 AM
>> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
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>> I have been searching for exactly that issue and cannot find that requirement.
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>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:45 AM
>> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
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>> Under CCP 704.730, you can claim the higher $175,000 exemption if a debtor is disabled as of the date of the petition. In Re Rolland, 317 B.R. 402 (C.D. Cal. 2004). Is anybody aware of an interpretation of that statute requiring that the disability be "permanent"?
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On Jul 17, 2014, at 7:21 PM, "Michael Avanesian michael@avanesianlaw.com [cdcbaa]" <

This is an interesting issue. According to the snapshot rule, the homestead exemption is a vested interest subject to divestment. You get it for 6 months and you lose it if you do not protect it.
What about the amount? Ex1. Debtor is 40 years old married to a 70 year old non-debtor spouse. Debtor is entitled to 175k exemption as long as he is married. If marriage is dissolved i.e. death or divorce, the exemption drops down to 75k. What happens if Debtor reinvests 175k in a new homestead. Wife dies and now he is only entitled to 75k, does the 100k that is no longer exempt get sucked into the Estate? Or is he entitled to the amount as of petition date?
Ex2. Debtor is "disabled" in such a way that he cannot obtain substantial gainful employment. He is entitled to 175k exemption. Sometime after petition date (say 1 week), he recovers. He is now only entitled to 75k exemption. Or is he entitled to amount as of petition date?
These exemptions all have a contingent remainder feel to them. You get the exemption but it's conditioned on (Ex1) remaining married or (Ex2) remaining disabled at the time the sale is to occur: 704.730(a)(3) - "(3) One hundred seventy-five thousand dollars ($175,000) ... at the time of the attempted sale." This language seems like the intent of the California legislature is to provide the exemption only so long as the contingency continues to be satisfied.
I know something is wrong with my analysis but I can't put my finger on it. The reason I say something is wrong is because in Chapter 11, I have seen Debtors retain their homestead exemption on a home even if they move out before the house is sold; apparently because their homestead is locked in on the Petition Date. Maybe Jacobson changed all this. I don't know how much reliance one can have on pre-Jacobson law.
Sincerely, Michael AvanesianOn Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Frank Ruggier frank@pricelawgroup.com [cdcbaa] <cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Maybe the disability only needs to last as long as the homestead exemption, 6 months. LOL.
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This is an interesting issue. According to the snapshot rule, the homestead
exemption is a vested interest subject to divestment. You get it for 6
months and you lose it if you do not protect it.
What about the amount?
Ex1. Debtor is 40 years old married to a 70 year old non-debtor spouse.
Debtor is entitled to 175k exemption as long as he is married. If marriage
is dissolved i.e. death or divorce, the exemption drops down to 75k. What
happens if Debtor reinvests 175k in a new homestead. Wife dies and now he
is only entitled to 75k, does the 100k that is no longer exempt get sucked
into the Estate? Or is he entitled to the amount as of petition date?
Ex2. Debtor is "disabled" in such a way that he cannot obtain substantial
gainful employment. He is entitled to 175k exemption. Sometime after
petition date (say 1 week), he recovers. He is now only entitled to 75k
exemption. Or is he entitled to amount as of petition date?
These exemptions all have a contingent remainder feel to them. You get the
exemption but it's conditioned on (Ex1) remaining married or (Ex2)
remaining disabled at the time the sale is to occur: 704.730(a)(3) - "(3)
One hundred seventy-five thousand dollars ($175,000) ... at the time of the
attempted sale." This language seems like the intent of the California
legislature is to provide the exemption only so long as the contingency
continues to be satisfied.
I know something is wrong with my analysis but I can't put my finger on it.
The reason I say something is wrong is because in Chapter 11, I have seen
Debtors retain their homestead exemption on a home even if they move out
before the house is sold; apparently because their homestead is locked in
on the Petition Date. Maybe Jacobson changed all this. I don't know how
much reliance one can have on pre-Jacobson law.
Sincerely,
Michael Avanesian
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Frank Ruggier frank@pricelawgroup.com
[cdcbaa] wrote:
>
>
> Maybe the disability only needs to last as long as the homestead
> exemption, 6 months. LOL.
>
>
>
> Frank X. Ruggier
> Price Law Group, APC
> 15760 Ventura Blvd., Suite 1100
> Encino, CA 91436
> Direct: (818) 205-2406
> Fax: (818) 907-2106
> www.pricelawgroup.com
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> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 17, 2014 11:05 AM
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> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
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> You want to argue that for me Dennis? Ill find a case for you. lol
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> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 17, 2014 11:04 AM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>
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>
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>
> In light of the new 9th Cir case about the six month reinvestment
> requirement, I wonder if the 9th Cir would add a requirement that the
> disability be permanent?
>
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>
> d
>
> Dennis McGoldrick, 350 S. Crenshaw Bl., #A207B, Torrance, Ca 90503
> 310-328-1001-voice
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> [image: cid:part1.03050307.05030101@bklaw.com]
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> On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:48 PM, "Giovanni Orantes go@gobklaw.com [cdcbaa]" cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Thank you, Larry.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2014, at 12:39 PM, "Larry Simons larry@lsimonslaw.com
> [cdcbaa]" wrote:
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> There are several Neff cases. Try this link:
>
>
>
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> http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case? ... as_sdt2006
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> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:33 PM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>
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> *In re Neff* does not discuss ccp 704.730.
>
>
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> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Larry Simons larry@lsimonslaw.com
> [cdcbaa] wrote:
>
>
>
> *Neff v. Denoce (In re Neff*, 2014 Bankr. LEXIS 471, *25 (9th Cir. BAP
> 2014).
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>
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> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:35 AM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>
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> I have been searching for exactly that issue and cannot find that
> requirement.
>
>
>
> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:45 AM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>
>
>
>
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> Under CCP 704.730, you can claim the higher $175,000 exemption if a debtor
> is disabled as of the date of the petition. In Re Rolland, 317 B.R. 402
> (C.D. Cal. 2004). Is anybody aware of an interpretation of that statute
> requiring that the disability be "permanent"?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Giovanni Orantes, Esq.*
>
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This is an interesting issue. According to the snapshot rule, the homestead exemption is a vested interest subject to divestment. You get it for 6 months and you lose it if you do not protect it.
What about the amount?Ex1. Debtor is 40 years old married to a 70 year old non-debtor spouse. Debtor is entitled to 175k exemption as long as he is married. If marriage is dissolved i.e. death or divorce, the exemption drops down to 75k. What happens if Debtor reinvests 175k in a new homestead. Wife dies and now he is only entitled to 75k, does the 100k that is no longer exempt get sucked into the Estate? Or is he entitled to the amount as of petition date?
Ex2. Debtor is "disabled" in such a way that he cannot obtain substantial gainful employment. He is entitled to 175k exemption. Sometime after petition date (say 1 week), he recovers. He is now only entitled to 75k exemption. Or is he entitled to amount as of petition date?
These exemptions all have a contingent remainder feel to them. You get the exemption but it's conditioned on (Ex1) remaining married or (Ex2) remaining disabled at the time the sale is to occur: 704.730(a)(3) - "(3) One hundred seventy-five thousand dollars ($175,000) ... at the time of the attempted sale." This language seems like the intent of the California legislature is to provide the exemption only so long as the contingency continues to be satisfied.
I know something is wrong with my analysis but I can't put my finger on it. The reason I say something is wrong is because in Chapter 11, I have seen Debtors retain their homestead exemption on a home even if they move out before the house is sold; apparently because their homestead is locked in on the Petition Date. Maybe Jacobson changed all this. I don't know how much reliance one can have on pre-Jacobson law.
Sincerely, Michael AvanesianOn Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Frank Ruggier frank@pricelawgroup.com [cdcbaa] <cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Maybe the disability only needs to last as long as the homestead exemption, 6 months. LOL.
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Dennis McGoldrick, 350 S. Crenshaw Bl., #A207B, Torrance, Ca 90503 310-328-1001-voice
> On Jul 15, 2014, at 12:04 PM, "Tuan Le tuanl@stevelopezlaw.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
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> I have a question that is in the realm of the Homestead exemption that is not the same as this one but hope that someone could answer. I have a client that is married and retired that will claim the Homestead Exemption but is filing alone. Both the client and the spouse are retired. There is about $120,000.00 of equity in the home. Would the debtor be able to claim the $175,000.00 Homestead Exemption for a community property even if he is filing alone?
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> Subject: RE: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
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> Neff v. Denoce (In re Neff, 2014 Bankr. LEXIS 471, *25 (9th Cir. BAP 2014).
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:35 AM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>
>
>
>
>
> I have been searching for exactly that issue and cannot find that requirement.
>
>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:45 AM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>
>
>
>
>
> Under CCP 704.730, you can claim the higher $175,000 exemption if a debtor is disabled as of the date of the petition. In Re Rolland, 317 B.R. 402 (C.D. Cal. 2004). Is anybody aware of an interpretation of that statute requiring that the disability be "permanent"?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Giovanni Orantes, Esq.*
>
> Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
> 3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 2920
> Los Angeles, CA 90010
> Tel: (213) 389-4362
> Fax: (877) 789-5776
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In light of the new 9th Cir case about the six month reinvestment requirement, I wonder if the 9th Cir would add a requirement that the disability be permanent?
d
Dennis McGoldrick, 350 S. Crenshaw Bl., #A207B, Torrance, Ca 90503 310-328-1001-voice
> On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:48 PM, "Giovanni Orantes go@gobklaw.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
>
> Thank you, Larry.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 12:39 PM, "Larry Simons larry@lsimonslaw.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
>>
>>
>> There are several Neff cases. Try this link:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case? ... as_sdt2006
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:33 PM
>> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In re Neff does not discuss ccp 704.730.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Larry Simons larry@lsimonslaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Neff v. Denoce (In re Neff, 2014 Bankr. LEXIS 471, *25 (9th Cir. BAP 2014).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:35 AM
>> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been searching for exactly that issue and cannot find that requirement.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:45 AM
>> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Under CCP 704.730, you can claim the higher $175,000 exemption if a debtor is disabled as of the date of the petition. In Re Rolland, 317 B.R. 402 (C.D. Cal. 2004). Is anybody aware of an interpretation of that statute requiring that the disability be "permanent"?
>>
>>
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>> Giovanni Orantes, Esq.*
>>
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>> 3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 2920
>> Los Angeles, CA 90010
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Thank you, Larry.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 15, 2014, at 12:39 PM, "Larry Simons larry@lsimonslaw.com [cdcbaa]" <cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

There are several Neff cases. Try this link:


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Beware of what some of the trustees (Larry and Wes excepted of course ;-)) tell you. We have some panel trustees who cannot tell where they end and the judge begins. They are often the same ones who will misstate the law with a tone of voice that is intended to make you think that they are speaking to you directly from atop Mt. Sinai.
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This answer is incorrect. Only a judge can disallow an exemption.
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> On Jul 15, 2014, at 2:31 PM, "axel richter arichterlaw@yahoo.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
>
> the Limited Income is the Issue, not the disability, if the debtor has more than a limited income, more than only disability income or SSI, than the trustee will not allow the excemption, happened to me before, the trustee is the one who allows or disallows the excemtion, call the trustee,
> regards
> axel
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 3:48 PM, "Giovanni Orantes go@gobklaw.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
>
>
>
> Thank you, Larry.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 12:39 PM, "Larry Simons larry@lsimonslaw.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
>>
>>
>> There are several Neff cases. Try this link:
>>
>> http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case? ... as_sdt2006
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:33 PM
>> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>>
>>
>> In re Neff does not discuss ccp 704.730.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Larry Simons larry@lsimonslaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
>>
>> Neff v. Denoce (In re Neff, 2014 Bankr. LEXIS 471, *25 (9th Cir. BAP 2014).
>>
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:35 AM
>> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>>
>>
>> I have been searching for exactly that issue and cannot find that requirement.
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:45 AM
>> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>>
>>
>> Under CCP 704.730, you can claim the higher $175,000 exemption if a debtor is disabled as of the date of the petition. In Re Rolland, 317 B.R. 402 (C.D. Cal. 2004). Is anybody aware of an interpretation of that statute requiring that the disability be "permanent"?
>>
>> --
>> Giovanni Orantes, Esq.*
>> Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
>> 3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 2920
>> Los Angeles, CA 90010
>> Tel: (213) 389-4362
>> Fax: (877) 789-5776
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>> 3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 2920
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>> Tel: (213) 389-4362
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Well, the trustee can argue that an exemption cannot be taken, but he or
she must still file an objection with the Court and the Judge decides if
the trustee carries the burden.
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:31 PM, axel richter arichterlaw@yahoo.com
[cdcbaa] wrote:
>
>
> the Limited Income is the Issue, not the disability, if the debtor has
> more than a limited income, more than only disability income or SSI, than
> the trustee will not allow the excemption, happened to me before, the
> trustee is the one who allows or disallows the excemtion, call the trustee,
> regards
> axel
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 3:48 PM, "Giovanni Orantes go@gobklaw.com
> [cdcbaa]" wrote:
>
>
>
> Thank you, Larry.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 15, 2014, at 12:39 PM, "Larry Simons larry@lsimonslaw.com
> [cdcbaa]" wrote:
>
>
> There are several Neff cases. Try this link:
>
>
> http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case? ... as_sdt2006
>
> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:33 PM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>
>
> *In re Neff* does not discuss ccp 704.730.
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Larry Simons larry@lsimonslaw.com
> [cdcbaa] wrote:
>
> *Neff v. Denoce (In re Neff*, 2014 Bankr. LEXIS 471, *25 (9th Cir. BAP
> 2014).
>
>
> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:35 AM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>
>
> I have been searching for exactly that issue and cannot find that
> requirement.
>
> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:45 AM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>
>
> Under CCP 704.730, you can claim the higher $175,000 exemption if a
> debtor is disabled as of the date of the petition. In Re Rolland, 317 B.R.
> 402 (C.D. Cal. 2004). Is anybody aware of an interpretation of that
> statute requiring that the disability be "permanent"?
>
> --
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> 3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 2920
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Well, the trustee can argue that an exemption cannot be taken, but he or she must still file an objection with the Court and the Judge decides if the trustee carries the burden.
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the Limited Income is the Issue, not the disability, if the debtor has more than a limited income, more than only disability income or SSI, than the trustee will not allow the excemption, happened to me before, the trustee is the one who allows or disallows the excemtion, call the trustee,
regards
axel
On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 3:48 PM, "Giovanni Orantes go@gobklaw.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
Thank you, Larry.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 15, 2014, at 12:39 PM, "Larry Simons larry@lsimonslaw.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
>There are several Neff cases. Try this link:
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Thank you, Larry.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 15, 2014, at 12:39 PM, "Larry Simons larry@lsimonslaw.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
>
> There are several Neff cases. Try this link:
>
>
>
> http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case? ... as_sdt2006
>
>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:33 PM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>
>
>
>
>
> In re Neff does not discuss ccp 704.730.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Larry Simons larry@lsimonslaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
>
>
>
> Neff v. Denoce (In re Neff, 2014 Bankr. LEXIS 471, *25 (9th Cir. BAP 2014).
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:35 AM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>
>
>
>
>
> I have been searching for exactly that issue and cannot find that requirement.
>
>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:45 AM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
>
>
>
>
>
> Under CCP 704.730, you can claim the higher $175,000 exemption if a debtor is disabled as of the date of the petition. In Re Rolland, 317 B.R. 402 (C.D. Cal. 2004). Is anybody aware of an interpretation of that statute requiring that the disability be "permanent"?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Giovanni Orantes, Esq.*
>
> Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
> 3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 2920
> Los Angeles, CA 90010
> Tel: (213) 389-4362
> Fax: (877) 789-5776
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>
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Giovanni Orantes, Esq.*
>
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In response to:
I have a client that is married and retired that will claim the Homestead
Exemption but is filing alone. Both the client and the spouse are
retired. There is about $120,000.00 of equity in the home. Would the
debtor be able to claim the $175,000.00 Homestead Exemption for a community
property even if he is filing alone?
If your only concern is that one spouse is filing and the other is not,
your client may claim the entire 175k. If you have other concerns, like if
at least one of them is not 65 or older (you said retired) or if they are
55 and over but there may be income issues then more analysis is necessary.
Sincerely,
Michael Avanesian
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Tuan Le tuanl@stevelopezlaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
>
>
> I have a question that is in the realm of the Homestead exemption that
> is not the same as this one but hope that someone could answer. I have a
> client that is married and retired that will claim the Homestead Exemption
> but is filing alone. Both the client and the spouse are retired. There is
> about $120,000.00 of equity in the home. Would the debtor be able to claim
> the $175,000.00 Homestead Exemption for a community property even if he is
> filing alone?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Tuan Le
>
>
>
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>
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> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:39 AM
>
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
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>
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>
>
>
> *Neff v. Denoce (In re Neff*, 2014 Bankr. LEXIS 471, *25 (9th Cir. BAP
> 2014).
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:35 AM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
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>
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>
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> I have been searching for exactly that issue and cannot find that
> requirement.
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> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
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> *Subject:* [cdcbaa] Urgent: Homestead Exemption Based on Disability
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> Under CCP 704.730, you can claim the higher $175,000 exemption if a debtor
> is disabled as of the date of the petition. In Re Rolland, 317 B.R. 402
> (C.D. Cal. 2004). Is anybody aware of an interpretation of that statute
> requiring that the disability be "permanent"?
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