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No, they've always needed to be filed in order for the reaffirmation
agreement to be valid. There just isn't a mandatory need for a
hearing if the attorney signs. But the court can certainly set one.
And the potted plant argument has no teeth. We are basically potted
plants at 341a meetings, yet that is now a requirement per our new
local rules...
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On 7/13/2016 8:02 AM, 'Christine A. Kingston'
attorneychristine@gmail.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> My understanding was that IF the debtor's attorney signs off on
> reffirmation, then it does NOT need to be filed with the court?
> Or, at least not set for hearing because it essentially becomes a
> stipulated reaffirmation.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Christine
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> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 4:56 PM, John Faucher
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> This may or may not be news to this group, but here goes . . .
> In Santa Barbara, Judge Saltzman is now requiring attorneys to
> appear at reaffirmation hearings where they have signed the
> reaffirmation. The attorneys who have appeared at these
> hearings find that they are basically potted plants, as the
> judge wishes to talk directly to the debtor about the
> importance of a reaffirmation agreement.
> Lore has it that she is also denying a higher proportion of
> the reaffirmations than previously.
> - John D. Faucher
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> On Saturday, July 2, 2016 2:02 PM, "easky1@yahoo.com
> [cdcbaa]" > wrote:
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> Renee:
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> Letter says no reaf, car will be picked up. Debtor needs to
> ask for a reaf.
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My understanding was that IF the debtor's attorney signs off on
reffirmation, then it does NOT need to be filed with the court? Or, at
least not set for hearing because it essentially becomes a stipulated
reaffirmation.
Am I missing something?
Christine
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5011 Argosy Avenue, Suite 3
Huntington Beach, CA 92649
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The Code reads that either party (debtor or creditor) may file the
reaffirmation based on debtor's intentions.
Normally, creditors send these agreements out without debtors or counsel
taking action. My concern is that other creditors will follow in Ford's
steps by forcing debtor's counsel to make the call, or otherwise initiate
reaffirmation. This places even more burden on debtors and their counsel
to hustle up these agreements.
The hardest part is that we don't support these agreements and generally
don't represent our clients in these matters, yet we need to be certain the
work is done.
It's complicated.
Christine
Christine A. Kingston, Esq.
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5011 Argosy Avenue, Suite 3
Huntington Beach, CA 92649
Office: 714-533-9210
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