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Yes, outside the plan - until confirmation.
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Use form 3015-1.10. For evidence, check and attach the "other" boxes
in items 5 and 6...
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> Everyone, I have a confirmation hearing tomorrow in front of judge Thompson and I need to file my personal property PMSI declarations of payments (don't ask why this is so last minute). Debtor did not pay with money orders but has other proof of payments. I need to get acknowledgments of receipt of payments from lenders. What form must an acknowledgment take? Does it have to be under penalty of perjury? Is a payment history sufficient? Does anyone have a form they can send me ASAP? I am really under the gun here and would appreciate any help.
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Giovanni Orantes, Esq.
Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1980
Los Angeles, CA 90010
Tel: (213) 389-4362
Phone: (888) 619-8222 x101
Fax: (877) 789-5776
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That payment history would enable you to check the "other" evidence in the
form declaration. Getting those histories takes a lof of work though and
may not always be accurate (that is, you're taking a risk the lender will
deny receiving the payment). I just have my clients pay with cashier's
checks or money orders and send the payment certified or via some other form
of U.S. Mail that provides receipt confirmation. Just be sure to check in
really early tomorrow and give a copy of the declaration to Rojas or her
staff. Unlike in L.A., where you just show the declarations to the trustees
or their staffs, Rojas likes to get a copy.
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Holly Roark wrote:
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> FYI - I was able to get payment histories from the lenders showing all
> postpetition payments.
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> Holly Roark
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> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Giovanni Orantes wrote:
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>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Holly Roark wrote:
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>>> I don't know. I just had this panic when I was away at NACBA this
>>> weekend. I woke up in the middle of the night and remembered there was a
>>> "mandatory" form (Form 3015-1.10) that is for purchase money security liens
>>> in personal property. I assume this is required if you are paying outside
>>> of the plan? Is this not required? Anyone? Bueller?
>>>
>>> Holly Roark
>>> holly@roarklawoffices.com
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>>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hale Andrew Antico >> bk.lawyer@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> In the Valley, is there a requirement to show proof of payment on
>>>> personal property, such as a car or furniture? I've never had to do this.
>>>> I believe it's only needed to show debtor is current with post-petition,
>>>> pre-confirmation deeds of trust. Hale
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>>>> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Holly Roark
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 03, 2010 4:25 AM
>>>> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>>>> *Subject:* [cdcbaa] HELP: CH 13 Acknowledgment of receipt or car
>>>> payments
>>>>
>>>> Everyone, I have a confirmation hearing tomorrow in front of judge
>>>> Thompson and I need to file my personal property PMSI declarations of
>>>> payments (don't ask why this is so last minute). Debtor did not pay with
>>>> money orders but has other proof of payments. I need to get acknowledgments
>>>> of receipt of payments from lenders. What form must an acknowledgment take?
>>>> Does it have to be under penalty of perjury? Is a payment history
>>>> sufficient? Does anyone have a form they can send me ASAP? I am really under
>>>> the gun here and would appreciate any help.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Holly Roark
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Holly Roark
>>>> holly@roarklawoffices.com
>>>> www.roarklawoffices.com
>>>> Central District of California
>>>> Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney
>>>>
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>>> --
>>> Holly Roark
>>> holly@roarklawoffices.com
>>> www.roarklawoffices.com
>>> Central District of California
>>> Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney
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>> Giovanni Orantes, Esq.
>> Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
>> 3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1980
>> Los Angeles, CA 90010
>> Tel: (213) 389-4362
>> Phone: (888) 619-8222 x101
>> Fax: (877) 789-5776
>> e-mail: go@gobklaw.com
>> website: www.gobklaw.com
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>> WE ARE A "DEBT RELIEF AGENCY" AS DEFINED BY FEDERAL LAW.
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>> AND SANTA BARBARA.
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> --
> Holly Roark
> holly@roarklawoffices.com
> www.roarklawoffices.com
> Central District of California
> Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney
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>
>
Giovanni Orantes, Esq.
Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1980
Los Angeles, CA 90010
Tel: (213) 389-4362
Phone: (888) 619-8222 x101
Fax: (877) 789-5776
e-mail: go@gobklaw.com
website: www.gobklaw.com
WE ARE A "DEBT RELIEF AGENCY" AS DEFINED BY FEDERAL LAW.
SERVING BAKERSFIELD, LOS ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY, RIVERSIDE, SAN BERNARDINO
AND SANTA BARBARA.
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That payment history would enable you to check the "other" evidence in the form declaration. Getting those histories takes a lof of work though and may not always be accurate (that is, you're taking a risk the lender will deny receiving the payment). I just have my clients pay with cashier's checks or money orders and send the payment certified or via some other form of U.S. Mail that provides receipt confirmation. Just be sure to check in really early tomorrow and give a copy of the declaration to Rojas or her staff. Unlike in L.A., where you just show the declarations to the trustees or their staffs, Rojas likes to get a copy.
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Holly Roark <hollyroark22@gmail.com> wrote:
FYI - I was able to get payment histories from the lenders showing all postpetition payments.
Holly Roark
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Giovanni Orantes <go@gobklaw.com> wrote:
It's required.
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Holly Roark <hollyroark22@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know. I just had this panic when I was away at NACBA this weekend. I woke up in the middle of the night and remembered there was a "mandatory" form (Form 3015-1.10) that is for purchase money security liens in personal property. I assume this is required if you are paying outside of the plan? Is this not required? Anyone? Bueller?
Holly Roark
holly@roarklawoffices.com
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hale Andrew Antico <bk.lawyer@gmail.com> wrote:
In the Valley, is therea requirement to show proof of payment on personal property, such as a car or furniture? I've never had to do this. I believe it's only needed to show debtor is current with post-petition, pre-confirmation deeds of trust. Hale
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FYI - I was able to get payment histories from the lenders showing all
postpetition payments.
Holly Roark
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Giovanni Orantes wrote:
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> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Holly Roark wrote:
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>> I don't know. I just had this panic when I was away at NACBA this
>> weekend. I woke up in the middle of the night and remembered there was a
>> "mandatory" form (Form 3015-1.10) that is for purchase money security liens
>> in personal property. I assume this is required if you are paying outside
>> of the plan? Is this not required? Anyone? Bueller?
>>
>> Holly Roark
>> holly@roarklawoffices.com
>>
>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hale Andrew Antico > > wrote:
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>>> In the Valley, is there a requirement to show proof of payment on
>>> personal property, such as a car or furniture? I've never had to do this.
>>> I believe it's only needed to show debtor is current with post-petition,
>>> pre-confirmation deeds of trust. Hale
>>>
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>>> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Holly Roark
>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 03, 2010 4:25 AM
>>> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>>> *Subject:* [cdcbaa] HELP: CH 13 Acknowledgment of receipt or car
>>> payments
>>>
>>> Everyone, I have a confirmation hearing tomorrow in front of judge
>>> Thompson and I need to file my personal property PMSI declarations of
>>> payments (don't ask why this is so last minute). Debtor did not pay with
>>> money orders but has other proof of payments. I need to get acknowledgments
>>> of receipt of payments from lenders. What form must an acknowledgment take?
>>> Does it have to be under penalty of perjury? Is a payment history
>>> sufficient? Does anyone have a form they can send me ASAP? I am really under
>>> the gun here and would appreciate any help.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Holly Roark
>>>
>>> --
>>> Holly Roark
>>> holly@roarklawoffices.com
>>> www.roarklawoffices.com
>>> Central District of California
>>> Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney
>>>
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>> --
>> Holly Roark
>> holly@roarklawoffices.com
>> www.roarklawoffices.com
>> Central District of California
>> Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney
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> --
> Giovanni Orantes, Esq.
> Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
> 3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1980
> Los Angeles, CA 90010
> Tel: (213) 389-4362
> Phone: (888) 619-8222 x101
> Fax: (877) 789-5776
> e-mail: go@gobklaw.com
> website: www.gobklaw.com
>
> WE ARE A "DEBT RELIEF AGENCY" AS DEFINED BY FEDERAL LAW.
>
> SERVING BAKERSFIELD, LOS ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY, RIVERSIDE, SAN BERNARDINO
> AND SANTA BARBARA.
>
> Note: The information contained in this e-mail message is confidential
> information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named. If
> the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent
> responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby
> notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication
> is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error,
> please immediately notify us by telephone or e-mail and delete the original
> e-mail at (213) 389-4362 or (888) 619-8222.
>
> IRS Circular 230 Disclosure: In order to comply with requirements imposed
> by the Internal Revenue Service, we inform you that any U.S. tax advice
> contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended
> to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding penalties
> under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing, or
> recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein.
>
>
>
Holly Roark
holly@roarklawoffices.com
www.roarklawoffices.com
Central District of California
Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney
FYI - I was able to get payment histories from the lenders showing all postpetition payments.
Holly Roark
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Giovanni Orantes <go@gobklaw.com> wrote:
It's required.
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Holly Roark <hollyroark22@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know. I just had this panic when I was away at NACBA this weekend. I woke up in the middle of the night and remembered there was a "mandatory" form (Form 3015-1.10) that is for purchase money security liens in personal property. I assume this is required if you are paying outside of the plan? Is this not required? Anyone? Bueller?
Holly Roark
holly@roarklawoffices.com
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hale Andrew Antico <bk.lawyer@gmail.com> wrote:
In the Valley, is therea requirement to show proof of payment on personal property, such as a car or furniture? I've never had to do this. I believe it's only needed to show debtor is current with post-petition, pre-confirmation deeds of trust. Hale
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It's required.
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Holly Roark wrote:
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> I don't know. I just had this panic when I was away at NACBA this
> weekend. I woke up in the middle of the night and remembered there was a
> "mandatory" form (Form 3015-1.10) that is for purchase money security liens
> in personal property. I assume this is required if you are paying outside
> of the plan? Is this not required? Anyone? Bueller?
>
> Holly Roark
> holly@roarklawoffices.com
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hale Andrew Antico wrote:
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>> In the Valley, is there a requirement to show proof of payment on personal
>> property, such as a car or furniture? I've never had to do this. I believe
>> it's only needed to show debtor is current with post-petition,
>> pre-confirmation deeds of trust. Hale
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf
>> Of *Holly Roark
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 03, 2010 4:25 AM
>> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* [cdcbaa] HELP: CH 13 Acknowledgment of receipt or car payments
>>
>> Everyone, I have a confirmation hearing tomorrow in front of judge
>> Thompson and I need to file my personal property PMSI declarations of
>> payments (don't ask why this is so last minute). Debtor did not pay with
>> money orders but has other proof of payments. I need to get acknowledgments
>> of receipt of payments from lenders. What form must an acknowledgment take?
>> Does it have to be under penalty of perjury? Is a payment history
>> sufficient? Does anyone have a form they can send me ASAP? I am really under
>> the gun here and would appreciate any help.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Holly Roark
>>
>> --
>> Holly Roark
>> holly@roarklawoffices.com
>> www.roarklawoffices.com
>> Central District of California
>> Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney
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> --
> Holly Roark
> holly@roarklawoffices.com
> www.roarklawoffices.com
> Central District of California
> Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney
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>
Giovanni Orantes, Esq.
Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1980
Los Angeles, CA 90010
Tel: (213) 389-4362
Phone: (888) 619-8222 x101
Fax: (877) 789-5776
e-mail: go@gobklaw.com
website: www.gobklaw.com
WE ARE A "DEBT RELIEF AGENCY" AS DEFINED BY FEDERAL LAW.
SERVING BAKERSFIELD, LOS ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY, RIVERSIDE, SAN BERNARDINO
AND SANTA BARBARA.
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It's required.On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Holly Roark <hollyroark22@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know. I just had this panic when I was away at NACBA this weekend. I woke up in the middle of the night and remembered there was a "mandatory" form (Form 3015-1.10) that is for purchase money security liens in personal property. I assume this is required if you are paying outside of the plan? Is this not required? Anyone? Bueller?
Holly Roark
holly@roarklawoffices.com
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hale Andrew Antico <bk.lawyer@gmail.com> wrote:
In the Valley, is therea requirement to show proof of payment on personal property, such as a car or furniture? I've never had to do this. I believe it's only needed to show debtor is current with post-petition, pre-confirmation deeds of trust. Hale
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I don't know. I just had this panic when I was away at NACBA this weekend.
I woke up in the middle of the night and remembered there was a "mandatory"
form (Form 3015-1.10) that is for purchase money security liens in personal
property. I assume this is required if you are paying outside of the plan?
Is this not required? Anyone? Bueller?
Holly Roark
holly@roarklawoffices.com
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hale Andrew Antico wrote:
>
>
> In the Valley, is there a requirement to show proof of payment on personal
> property, such as a car or furniture? I've never had to do this. I believe
> it's only needed to show debtor is current with post-petition,
> pre-confirmation deeds of trust. Hale
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf
> Of *Holly Roark
> *Sent:* Monday, May 03, 2010 4:25 AM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [cdcbaa] HELP: CH 13 Acknowledgment of receipt or car payments
>
> Everyone, I have a confirmation hearing tomorrow in front of judge
> Thompson and I need to file my personal property PMSI declarations of
> payments (don't ask why this is so last minute). Debtor did not pay with
> money orders but has other proof of payments. I need to get acknowledgments
> of receipt of payments from lenders. What form must an acknowledgment take?
> Does it have to be under penalty of perjury? Is a payment history
> sufficient? Does anyone have a form they can send me ASAP? I am really under
> the gun here and would appreciate any help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Holly Roark
>
> --
> Holly Roark
> holly@roarklawoffices.com
> www.roarklawoffices.com
> Central District of California
> Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney
>
>
>
Holly Roark
holly@roarklawoffices.com
www.roarklawoffices.com
Central District of California
Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney
I don't know. I just had this panic when I was away at NACBA this weekend. I woke up in the middle of the night and remembered there was a "mandatory" form (Form 3015-1.10) that is for purchase money security liens in personal property. I assume this is required if you are paying outside of the plan? Is this not required? Anyone? Bueller?
Holly Roark
holly@roarklawoffices.com
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hale Andrew Antico <bk.lawyer@gmail.com> wrote:
In the Valley, is therea requirement to show proof of payment on personal property, such as a car or furniture? I've never had to do this. I believe it's only needed to show debtor is current with post-petition, pre-confirmation deeds of trust. Hale
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In the Valley, is there a requirement to show proof of payment on personal
property, such as a car or furniture? I've never had to do this. I believe
it's only needed to show debtor is current with post-petition,
pre-confirmation deeds of trust. Hale
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Everyone, I have a confirmation hearing tomorrow in front of judge Thompson
and I need to file my personal property PMSI declarations of payments (don't
ask why this is so last minute). Debtor did not pay with money orders but
has other proof of payments. I need to get acknowledgments of receipt of
payments from lenders. What form must an acknowledgment take? Does it have
to be under penalty of perjury? Is a payment history sufficient? Does anyone
have a form they can send me ASAP? I am really under the gun here and would
appreciate any help.
Thanks,
Holly Roark
Holly Roark
holly@roarklawoffices.com
www.roarklawoffices.com
Central District of California
Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney
Everyone, I have a confirmation hearing tomorrow in front of judge Thompson and I need to file my personal property PMSI declarations of payments (don't ask why this is so last minute). Debtor did not pay with money orders but has other proof of payments. I need to get acknowledgments of receipt of payments from lenders. What form must an acknowledgment take? Does it have to be under penalty of perjury? Is a payment history sufficient? Does anyone have a form they can send me ASAP? I am really under the gun here and would appreciate any help.
Thanks,
Holly Roark-- Holly Roarkholly@roarklawoffices.comwww.roarklawoffices.comCentral District of California
Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney

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