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Ask family law court for an Order to sell the house and divide the proceeds
or debt.
Ask family law court for an Order to sell the house and divide the proceeds or debt.

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Holly:
If your client's goal is to "be taken off the loan", you need to know why
when trying to figure out what to do. Is she unable to obtain credit? Is
the lender calling her about the loan? It is an emotional issue because the
lout she divorced is still a lout?
If you file a bk to get her off the loan you will not accomplish anything,
so it is important to see what your client really wants and then work from
there.
If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me.
Pat
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Why the surprise? It is NEVER possible to "remove" someone from a loan. It
is called refinance..... The only thing amazing about this is how many
people believe that it is possible and include such provisions in divorce
agreements, business agreements, etc. etc.
David A. Tilem
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Holly Roark
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 7:30 PM
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Subject: [cdcbaa] W was supposed to be taken off loan per divorce but
The divorce agreement stated that W was to grant the house to H and that she
was to be taken off the loan. W granted house back to H but bank won't take
her off the loan. Lender says the only way to get W off the loan is for H to
refinance, but no one will refi with him because he has crappy credit.
Any ideas what W can do to get taken off the loan? We haven't filed the bk
case yet and we are exploring her options available outside of bankruptcy.
Thank you for any guidance you can provide.
Holly Roark
holly@roarklawoffic es.com
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Why the surprise? It
is NEVER possible to "remove" someone from a loan. It is called
refinance..... The only thing amazing about this is how many people
believe that it is possible and include such provisions in divorce
agreements, business agreements, etc. etc.


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If the spouse remaining on the deed files bankruptcy, should she include the divorced spouse as a creditor if the divorced spouse is still on the deed of trust, notice of default, notice of sale etc?
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and the bank asked for a copy of the death certificate.
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Daniela Romero wrote:
> The only time I've heard of of a bank taking a spouse off a loan was in the
> case of one spouse dying.
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> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Dennis McGoldrick wrote:
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>> US Costitution prohibits states from impairing contracts. As a result
>> divorce is meaningless with regard to contract liability and getting off of
>> loan.
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 11, 2009, at 7:30 PM, "Holly Roark" wrote:
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>> The divorce agreement stated that W was to grant the house to H and that
>> she was to be taken off the loan. W granted house back to H but bank won't
>> take her off the loan. Lender says the only way to get W off the loan is for
>> H to refinance, but no one will refi with him because he has crappy credit.
>>
>> Any ideas what W can do to get taken off the loan? We haven't filed the bk
>> case yet and we are exploring her options available outside of bankruptcy.
>>
>> Thank you for any guidance you can provide.
>>
>> Holly Roark
>> holly@roarklawoffic es.com
>>
>>
>>
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and the bank asked for a copy of the death certificate.> wrote:
The only time I've heard of of a bank taking a spouse off a loan was in the case of one spouse dying.
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Dennis McGoldrick <easky1@yahoo.com> wrote:
US Costitution prohibits states from impairing contracts. As a result divorce is meaningless with regard to contract liability and getting off of loan.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 11, 2009, at 7:30 PM, "Holly Roark" <roarklaw@yahoo.com> wrote:
The divorce agreement stated that W was to grant the house to H and that she was to be taken off the loan. W granted house back to H but bank won't take her off the loan. Lender says the only way to get W off the loan is for H to refinance, but no one will refi with him because he has crappy credit.
Any ideas what W can do to get taken off the loan? We haven't filed the bk case yet and we are exploring her options available outside of bankruptcy.
Thank you for any guidance you can provide.
Holly Roark
holly@roarklawoffices.com
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US Costitution prohibits states from impairing contracts. As a result divorce is meaningless with regard to contract liability and getting off of loan.
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On Dec 11, 2009, at 7:30 PM, "Holly Roark" wrote:
The divorce agreement stated that W was to grant the house to H and that she was to be taken off the loan. W granted house back to H but bank won't take her off the loan. Lender says the only way to get W off the loan is for H to refinance, but no one will refi with him because he has crappy credit.
Any ideas what W can do to get taken off the loan? We haven't filed the bk case yet and we are exploring her options available outside of bankruptcy.
Thank you for any guidance you can provide.
Holly Roark
holly@roarklawoffices.com
US Costitution prohibits states from impairing contracts. As a result divorce is meaningless with regard to contract liability and getting off of loan.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 11, 2009, at 7:30 PM, "Holly Roark" <roarklaw@yahoo.com> wrote:

The divorce agreement stated that W was to grant the house to H and that she was to be taken off the loan. W granted house back to H but bank won't take her off the loan. Lender says the only way to get W off the loan is for H to refinance, but no one will refi with him because he has crappy credit.
Any ideas what W can do to get taken off the loan? We haven't filed the bk case yet and we are exploring her options available outside of bankruptcy.
Thank you for any guidance you can provide.
Holly Roark
holly@roarklawoffices.com

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Family law court is a court of limited jdx. You will find that all creditors (including the FTB and IRS) can go back to the original agreement to collect. The only remedy for the parties
is to go back to family law court for a contempt of court order against the non performing party.
Your client's remedy is through BK for this creditor. )
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The divorce agreement stated that W was to grant the house to H and that she was to be taken off the loan. W granted house back to H but bank won't take her off the loan. Lender says the only way to get W off the loan is for H to refinance, but no one will refi with him because he has crappy credit.
Any ideas what W can do to get taken off the loan? We haven't filed the bk case yet and we are exploring her options available outside of bankruptcy.
Thank you for any guidance you can provide.
Holly Roark
holly@roarklawoffices.com

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