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Lesson One for Newbies
Great story! The restaurant in question is Papa Cristo's, located on the
northeast corner of Pico and Normandie.
2771 West Pico Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90006
Phone: (323) 737-2970
Fax: (323) 737-3571
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It's one of my favorite places for lunch or dinner.
Jacob D. Chang, Esq.
Law Offices of Jacob D. Chang
1600 Wilshire Boulevard, Third Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90017
Tel: (213) 252-4440
Fax: (213) 738-1116
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On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Giovanni Orantes wrote:
> how old is judge zurzolo?!!
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> I have the code, the frbp and frcp , among others, in my iPhone apps.
> Very convenient. Someone should have the local rules put into an app
> too.
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> At my first BK firm (Winthrop Couchot) they pass out a customized
> handbook code and rules every year. You carry it around like a bible
> and you would frequently see all of us nerds open and review the codes
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> > cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> jonhayes6666
> > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 8:49 AM
> > To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [cdcbaa] Lesson One for Newbies
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> > McGoldrick and I went to lunch - some greek place on Pico (food's
> great!). That's
> > well more than 120 years of bankruptcy experience sitting at the table,
> telling
> > war stories. Pretty soon we are arguing about something, trying to
> convince
> > each other of how something works. Suddenly, Dennis said, "I'll be right
> > back." and left. He came back 3 minutes later with a bankruptcy code. We
> > read together some code section and then some other code section and
> quickly
> > reached a consensous about the point. The answer is in the code, or the
> rules,
> > or the local rules. Some answers are in cases. If the answer is not
> there, any
> > answer I give you is speculation.
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> > When I was a newbie a long time ago, Zurzolo said to me in court in front
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> > everyone, "Mr. Hayes, have you read Rule 2004?" I said, "Of
> > course." He then proceeded to read it to me (and everyone else). I had
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> > When one of us nags about reading the rules first, take the advice to
> heart. At
> > my age, I don't even trust what judges say a lot of the times. I want to
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> Giovanni Orantes, Esq.
> 3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1980
> Los Angeles, CA 90010
> Tel: (213) 389-4362
> Phone: (888) 619-8222 x101
> Fax: (877) 789-5776
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> website: www.gobklaw.com
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Great story! The restaurant in question is Papa Cristo's, located on the northeast corner of Pico and Normandie.
The post was migrated from Yahoo.
how old is judge zurzolo?!!
I have the code, the frbp and frcp , among others, in my iPhone apps.
Very convenient. Someone should have the local rules put into an app
too.
At my first BK firm (Winthrop Couchot) they pass out a customized
handbook code and rules every year. You carry it around like a bible
and you would frequently see all of us nerds open and review the codes
at the same time.
On Saturday, February 6, 2010, James T. King wrote:
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> Dennis had a bankruptcy code in his trunk. I keep one in the glove
> compartment.
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> From:
> cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jonhayes6666
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 8:49 AM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [cdcbaa] Lesson One for Newbies
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> There is a short story I love to tell my
> students. Last year, after some cdcbaa program, Jim King, Ray Aver, Dennis
> McGoldrick and I went to lunch - some greek place on Pico (food's great!). That's
> well more than 120 years of bankruptcy experience sitting at the table, telling
> war stories. Pretty soon we are arguing about something, trying to convince
> each other of how something works. Suddenly, Dennis said, "I'll be right
> back." and left. He came back 3 minutes later with a bankruptcy code. We
> read together some code section and then some other code section and quickly
> reached a consensous about the point. The answer is in the code, or the rules,
> or the local rules. Some answers are in cases. If the answer is not there, any
> answer I give you is speculation.
>
> When I was a newbie a long time ago, Zurzolo said to me in court in front of
> everyone, "Mr. Hayes, have you read Rule 2004?" I said, "Of
> course." He then proceeded to read it to me (and everyone else). I had not
> read it CAREFULLY. His point screamed loud at me.
>
> When one of us nags about reading the rules first, take the advice to heart. At
> my age, I don't even trust what judges say a lot of the times. I want to see
> what the code says. That's the law.
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Giovanni Orantes, Esq.
3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1980
Los Angeles, CA 90010
Tel: (213) 389-4362
Phone: (888) 619-8222 x101
Fax: (877) 789-5776
e-mail: go@gobklaw.com
website: www.gobklaw.com
WE ARE A "DEBT RELIEF AGENCY" AS DEFINED BY FEDERAL LAW.
SERVING BAKERSFIELD, LOS ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY, RIVERSIDE, SAN
BERNARDINO AND SANTA BARBARA.
Note: The information contained in this e-mail message is confidential
information intended only for the use of the individual or entity
named. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or
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are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of
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There is a short story I love to tell my students. Last year, after some cdcbaa program, Jim King, Ray Aver, Dennis McGoldrick and I went to lunch - some greek place on Pico (food's great!). That's well more than 120 years of bankruptcy experience sitting at the table, telling war stories. Pretty soon we are arguing about something, trying to convince each other of how something works. Suddenly, Dennis said, "I'll be right back." and left. He came back 3 minutes later with a bankruptcy code. We read together some code section and then some other code section and quickly reached a consensous about the point. The answer is in the code, or the rules, or the local rules. Some answers are in cases. If the answer is not there, any answer I give you is speculation.
When I was a newbie a long time ago, Zurzolo said to me in court in front of everyone, "Mr. Hayes, have you read Rule 2004?" I said, "Of course." He then proceeded to read it to me (and everyone else). I had not read it CAREFULLY. His point screamed loud at me.
When one of us nags about reading the rules first, take the advice to heart. At my age, I don't even trust what judges say a lot of the times. I want to see what the code says. That's the law.
JH
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