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Bail Bonds Debt --
Also defendants often put up collateral to secure a bond. Did that happen?
On Jul 26, 2017 11:29 AM, "Kirk Brennan" wrote:
> If the criminal charges are still pending and he is out on bail, I think
> the concern about pulling the bond and ending up in jail is valid. The
> debtor might challenge the action as being a stay violation but in the
> meantime he might be sitting in jail, which he might not appreciate. So,
> practically speaking it might be wise to explain that to the client.
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> On Jul 26, 2017 10:15 AM, "'Steven B. Lever' sblever@leverlaw.com
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> So is he out on bail?
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> On Jul 25, 2017 4:33 PM, "'Steven B. Lever' sblever@leverlaw.com
> [cdcbaa]" wrote:
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> I have a client who owes an installment payment to a bail bondsman who is
> still attempting to collect. The bond is still extent, but was issued
> prepetition.
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> I believe bail bondsman pay the surety company their full premium, and so
> the only amount owed now is to the bail bondsman. I believe this is a
> dischargeable debt.
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> However, the bondsman may attempt to pull the bond to collect, and put the
> client in jail. I believe that a violation of the automatic stay, or if
> after the case a violation of the discharge order.
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> Does anyone see any issues I have raised here, or have any experience in
> this rough and tumble world they can share with me?
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> Thanks
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> Steve
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Also defendants often put up collateral to secure a bond. Did that happen?On Jul 26, 2017 11:29 AM, "Kirk Brennan" <kirkinhermosa@gmail.com> wrote:
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If the criminal charges are still pending and he is out on bail, I think
the concern about pulling the bond and ending up in jail is valid. The
debtor might challenge the action as being a stay violation but in the
meantime he might be sitting in jail, which he might not appreciate. So,
practically speaking it might be wise to explain that to the client.
On Jul 26, 2017 10:15 AM, "'Steven B. Lever' sblever@leverlaw.com [cdcbaa]"
wrote:
Yes, he is.
*From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:39 AM
*To:* Cdcbaa Yahoo Listserv
*Subject:* Re: [cdcbaa] Bail Bonds Debt --
So is he out on bail?
On Jul 25, 2017 4:33 PM, "'Steven B. Lever' sblever@leverlaw.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
I have a client who owes an installment payment to a bail bondsman who is
still attempting to collect. The bond is still extent, but was issued
prepetition.
I believe bail bondsman pay the surety company their full premium, and so
the only amount owed now is to the bail bondsman. I believe this is a
dischargeable debt.
However, the bondsman may attempt to pull the bond to collect, and put the
client in jail. I believe that a violation of the automatic stay, or if
after the case a violation of the discharge order.
Does anyone see any issues I have raised here, or have any experience in
this rough and tumble world they can share with me?
Thanks
Steve
Law Offices of Steven B. Lever
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If the criminal charges are still pending and he is out on bail, I think the concern about pulling the bond and ending up in jail is valid. The debtor might challenge the action as being a stay violation but in the meantime he might be sitting in jail, which he might not appreciate. So, practically speaking it might be wise to explain that to the client.On Jul 26
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One could argue that the revocation of the bond is not a violation of the stay. The issuance of the bail bond is a contractual obligation between the debtor and the bondsman that the debtor will breach. You seem to imply that the bondman is stuck with issuing the bond even though he will not be paid. Conditions of the bondsman issuing the bond are pretty extensive, and should reviewed carefully.
The revocation of the release from jail is not an action of the bondman, but of the applicable criminal court.
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So is he out on bail?
On Jul 25, 2017 4:33 PM, "'Steven B. Lever' sblever@leverlaw.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
>
>
> I have a client who owes an installment payment to a bail bondsman who is
> still attempting to collect. The bond is still extent, but was issued
> prepetition.
>
>
>
> I believe bail bondsman pay the surety company their full premium, and so
> the only amount owed now is to the bail bondsman. I believe this is a
> dischargeable debt.
>
>
>
> However, the bondsman may attempt to pull the bond to collect, and put the
> client in jail. I believe that a violation of the automatic stay, or if
> after the case a violation of the discharge order.
>
>
>
> Does anyone see any issues I have raised here, or have any experience in
> this rough and tumble world they can share with me?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> Law Offices of Steven B. Lever
>
>
>
> Steven B. Lever
>
> ( Tel. (562) 436-5456 ext. 1
>
> ( Fax (562) 485-6886
>
> * sblever@leverlaw.com
>
> www.leverlaw.com
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So is he out on bail?On Jul 25, 2017 4:33 PM, "'Steven B. Lever' sblever@leverlaw.com [cdcbaa]" <cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I have a client who owes an installment payment to a bail bondsman who is still attempting to collect. The bond is still extent, but was issued prepetition.
I believe bail bondsman pay the surety company their full premium, and so the only amount owed now is to the bail bondsman.
However, the bondsman may attempt to pull the bond to collect, and put the client in jail. I believe that a violation of the automatic stay, or if after the case a violation
of the discharge order.
Does anyone see any issues I have raised here, or have any experience in this rough and tumble world they can share with me?
Thanks
Steve
Law Offices of Steven B. Lever
Steven B. Lever
(
Tel. (562) 436-5456 ext. 1
(
Fax (562) 485-6886
*
sblever@leverlaw.com
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Hi Steven,
I can only offer that I have had several clients who discharged this kind of debt with no issues.
Thanks,
Christie Cronenweth
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> On Jul 25, 2017, at 4:33 PM, 'Steven B. Lever' sblever@leverlaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> I have a client who owes an installment payment to a bail bondsman who is still attempting to collect. The bond is still extent, but was issued prepetition.
>
>
>
> I believe bail bondsman pay the surety company their full premium, and so the only amount owed now is to the bail bondsman. I believe this is a dischargeable debt.
>
>
>
> However, the bondsman may attempt to pull the bond to collect, and put the client in jail. I believe that a violation of the automatic stay, or if after the case a violation of the discharge order.
>
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> Does anyone see any issues I have raised here, or have any experience in this rough and tumble world they can share with me?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Steve
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>
>
>
>
> Law Offices of Steven B. Lever
>
>
>
> Steven B. Lever
>
> ( Tel. (562) 436-5456 ext. 1
>
> ( Fax (562) 485-6886
>
> * sblever@leverlaw.com
>
> www.leverlaw.com
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I can only offer that I have had several clients who discharged this kind of debt with no issues. Thanks,Christie CronenwethLaw Offices of Christie Cronenweth25202 Crenshaw Blvd., Suite 207Torrance, CA 90505310-257-4995 ph
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I have a client who owes an installment payment to a bail bondsman who is still attempting to collect. The bond is still extent, but was issued prepetition.
I believe bail bondsman pay the surety company their full premium, and so the only amount owed now is to the bail bondsman. I believe this is a dischargeable debt.
However, the bondsman may attempt to pull the bond to collect, and put the client in jail. I believe that a violation of the automatic stay, or if after the case a violation of the discharge order.
Does anyone see any issues I have raised here, or have any experience in this rough and tumble world they can share with me?
Thanks
Steve
Law Offices of Steven B. Lever
Steven B. Lever
* Tel. (562) 436-5456 ext. 1
* Fax (562) 485-6886
* sblever@leverlaw.com
www.leverlaw.com
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I have a client who owes an installment payment to a bail bondsman who is still attempting to collect. The bond is still extent, but was issued prepetition.
I believe bail bondsman pay the surety company their full premium, and so the only amount owed now is to the bail bondsman. I believe this is a dischargeable debt.
However, the bondsman may attempt to pull the bond to collect, and put the client in jail. I believe that a violation of the automatic stay, or if after the case a violation
of the discharge order.
Does anyone see any issues I have raised here, or have any experience in this rough and tumble world they can share with me?
Thanks
Steve
Law Offices of Steven B. Lever
Steven B. Lever
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Tel. (562) 436-5456 ext. 1
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Fax (562) 485-6886
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sblever@leverlaw.com
www.leverlaw.com
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