Can a corp. file a petition if the majority shareholder, who is not an officer or director, does not approve the filing?

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Dear David,
Good point. When I meet with the widow I will review the articles of incorporation.
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Dear David,
The people voting on whether to file the petition dont have any a priori knowledge of whether the Chapter 7 Trustee will abandon assets. Given the nature of Chapter 7 the very title of the chapter is liquidate substantially all of the corporate assets. Therefore, in the absence of supernatural prescience or a working time machine, at the time of voting they are voting to (in the language of Cal. Corp. Code 1001(a)) dispose of all or substantially all of its assets. If the Trustee ends up abandoning the assets, that doesnt change the motive behind the vote. To assume otherwise is a variant of the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.
Im not sure I see the relevance of Cal. Corp. Code 1200 to this case. The case about which I asked is a Chapter 7. Cal. Corp. Code n?
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Dear Jon,
Thank you. Your reference to Cal. Corp. Code 1001(a) with which I was unfamiliar is exactly what I was looking for. I just made an appointment to meet with the widow to sign a retainer. As soon as thats done, I will prepare and file the motion to dismiss.
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Nick,
I agree with Professor Hays that California Corp Code requires a shareholder vote to file for bankruptcy; but as I recall most chapter 11s I have seen are authorized only by the board.
In addition to the shareholder vote, Im suggesting the board is rouge and doesnt have the authority to bankrupt the corporation, or do anything else. One doesnt get membership on the board. The board in not a property right shareholders own. The board serves at the pleasure of the all shareholders.
Stock inheritance is a serious issue that is often overlooked by small and close corporations. If the corporation was properly governed, in addition to bylaws there should be a shareholder buy-sell agreement, with spousal consents. The purpose of the buy-sell is to avoid control issues when a corporate outsider inherits a significant block of stock. Unless there was some agreement between the original shareholders, the widow shareholder has 80% of the vote.
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I think the point attempting to be made was that the corporate formalities might not have been followed. When husband died there was a vacancy on the board. Did the bylaws require a replacement director be elected? Was there quorum present when the vote to file a chapter7 case was held if there was a board vacancy?
Otherwise, while I agree the assets belong to the Chapter 7 estate, that does not include the ownership shares. Accordingly , wife still has the right to elect a different board of directors now, and then have them elect to pursue dismissal of the chapter 7. Obviously the chapter 7 trustee can oppose and the Court can deny any such motion.
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> The board voted unanimously to file. She wasnt on the board, so she couldnt vote. Her connection to the company was derivative: her husband was an 80% owner and board member. When he died she got the stock because it had been community property, but she didnt get her husbands membership on the board because that hadnt been community property any more than his job would have been community property.
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> The widow has 80% of the vote for directors. The two minority members cant just keep her off the board. If the board was not properly formed by vote of all shareholders it may not have authority to file bankruptcy. Doesnt the authorization require a proper number of directors to vote for bankruptcy. Would a motion to dismiss for lack of authority to file make sense?
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> The 80% shareholder is the widow of an 80% shareholder who was a board member. When her husband died she got the shares as community property, but was never put on the board. The board has two members, each 10% owners. They voted to file the Chapter 7 based on the bad advice of counsel. Now the 80% owner is facing a large preference avoidance action. Id like to get the case dismissed, but it looks unlikely. It appears that if the board voted to file, the filing was legitimate.
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> A corporation filed for Chapter 7 protection. However, the 80% shareholder, who is neither an officer, nor a director, did not sign anything authorizing the filing. Can the case be dismissed based on the failure of the Board to have the 80% shareholder sign the corporate resolution authorizing the filing?
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Dear Larry,
The board voted unanimously to file. She wasnt on the board, so she couldnt vote. Her connection to the company was derivative: her husband was an 80% owner and board member. When he died she got the stock because it had been community property, but she didnt get her husbands membership on the board because that hadnt been community property any more than his job would have been community property.
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Dear Kirk,
The company is in a Chapter 7 bankruptcy, and therefore belongs to the Chapter 7 Trustee. Therefore, the widow cannot fire the board and elect a new one.
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Nick,
The widow has 80% of the vote for directors. The two minority members cand by vote of all shareholders it may not have authority to file bankruptcy. Doesnt the authorization require a proper number of directors to vote for bankruptcy. Would a motion to dismiss for lack of authority to file make sense?
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Dear Larry and Christine,
The 80% shareholder is the widow of an 80% shareholder who was a board member. When her husband died she got the shares as community property, but was never put on the board. The board has two members, each 10% owners. They voted to file the Chapter 7 based on the bad advice of counsel. Now the 80% owner is facing a large preference avoidance action. Id like to get the case dismissed, but it looks unlikely. It appears that if the board voted to file, the filing was legitimate.
The attorney who filed the case had several previous suspensions. Based on this filing at the very least he should have waited until the one-year preference period had passed before filing I suspect he
Anyway, thanks for your input.
All the best,
Nick
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My take; Shareholders have no management prerogative. Shareholders elect the board which authorizes the bankruptcy.
So, if the board was properly elected pursuant to the bylaws or the corporate code; the board would authorize the bankruptcy, by board resolution.
How is an 80% shareholder not a director?
Best regards
Larry Webb
California Board of Legal Specialization
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