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Property Tax Lien After Discharge
Stella:
Object. The unsecured claim is against the corporation.
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Dennis McGoldrick, 350 S. Crenshaw Bl., #A207B, Torrance, Ca 90503 310-328-1001-voice
> On Feb 28, 2014, at 4:50 PM, "Stella Havkin" wrote:
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> My debtors own a building at which they have operated a corporation for 30 years. The county tax assessor has filed a proof of claim attaching bills directed to their corporation for personal property taxes for equipment that is located at the property. When I asked the county attorney why my debtors would be liable for a corporate liability, I was told that it is because the equipment is located at the property. By this logic every landlord is liable for every tenant's personal property taxes. What am I missing?
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Shannon Doyle
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 7:02 PM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [cdcbaa] Property Tax Lien After Discharge
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> This stems from 523(a)(1)(A) which declares non-dischargeable debts found under 507(a)(8)(B).
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> Shannon A. Doyle
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> Attorney at Law
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> 100 N. Barranca Avenue, Suite 250
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> West Covina, CA 91791-1600
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> Tel: (626) 646-2555
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> Fax: (626) 332-8644
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> www.blclaw.com
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Shannon Doyle
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 4:44 PM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [cdcbaa] Property Tax Lien After Discharge
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> Hi Gerald,
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> See 507(a)(8)(B) property taxes incurred a year before the Chapter are not dischargeable.
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> Shannon A. Doyle
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> Attorney at Law
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> 100 N. Barranca Avenue, Suite 250
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> West Covina, CA 91791-1600
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> Tel: (626) 646-2555
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> Fax: (626) 332-8644
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> www.blclaw.com
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Gerald McNally
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 4:33 PM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [cdcbaa] Property Tax Lien After Discharge
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> Listmates,
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> PC lost real property to foreclosure on 2/19/2009
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> PC files Chapter 7 on 5/22/2009, discharge 9/28/2009
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> On April 7, 2010, the LA County Tax Assessor files 2 Certificates of unsecured tax liens against PC; identified as for the 2009 tax year>
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> Is this a violation of the discharge injunction?
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> Gerry
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> Gerald McNally
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> McNally & Associates, P.C.
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> 517 East Wilson Ave., Ste 104
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> Glendale, CA 91206
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> 818.507.5100
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> Fax: 818.507.5001
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My debtors own a building at which they have operated a corporation for 30
years. The county tax assessor has filed a proof of claim attaching bills
directed to their corporation for personal property taxes for equipment that
is located at the property. When I asked the county attorney why my debtors
would be liable for a corporate liability, I was told that it is because the
equipment is located at the property. By this logic every landlord is
liable for every tenant's personal property taxes. What am I missing?
Stella Havkin
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This stems from 523(a)(1)(A) which declares non-dischargeable debts
found under 507(a)(8)(B).
Shannon A. Doyle
Attorney at Law
100 N. Barranca Avenue, Suite 250
West Covina, CA 91791-1600
Tel: (626) 646-2555
Fax: (626) 332-8644
www.blclaw.com
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Sincerely,
Tyson M. Takeuchi, Esq.
Tyson M. Takeuchi
Certified
Bankruptcy Specialist*^
Law Offices of Tyson M. Takeuchi
1100
Wilshire Blvd., Ste. 2606
Los Angeles, CA 90017
tel: (213)
637-1566
fax: (888) 977-6310
*By State Bar of California Board of
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^Consumer Bankruptcy Specialist Certified by
American Board of CertificationTo: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 23:49:26 +0000
Subject: [cdcbaa] Re: Property Tax Lien After Discharge
Boy that's scary. Bro Dennis-McGoldrick has commented about this in the past. 523(a) says which taxes are not discharged. What's not-discharged is auto-maticaly not-discharged so they may be right. I'm not sure if I'm missing something here. I'm very interested in this obviously since we have to advise the clients. It doesn't come up because the taxes are paid by the bank usually at some point and even the county, as bad as it needs the money, can't collect twice.
Thinking about it some more, these may be personal property taxes from a business. Check on that.
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> Listmates,
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> PC lost real property to foreclosure on 2/19/2009
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>
>
> PC files Chapter 7 on 5/22/2009, discharge 9/28/2009
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>
> On April 7, 2010, the LA County Tax Assessor files 2 Certificates of
> unsecured tax liens against PC; identified as for the "2009 tax year"
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> Is this a violation of the discharge injunction?
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> Gerry
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> McNally Bus Card Smaller
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> Gerald McNally
>
> McNally & Associates, P.C.
>
> 517 East Wilson Ave., Ste 104
>
> Glendale, CA 91206
>
> 818.507.5100
>
> Fax: 818.507.5001
>
>
>
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> is not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i)
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> marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter
> addressed herein.
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Taxes may stem from a boat or other personal property.
Mark T. Jessee
Law Offices of Mark T. Jessee
"A Debt Relief Agency"
50 W. Hillcrest Drive, Suite 200
Thousand Oaks, CA 91360
(805) 497-5868 (805) 497-5864 (Facsimile)
In a message dated 6/5/2013 4:49:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
jhayes@hayesbklaw.com writes:
Boy that's scary. Bro Dennis-McGoldrick has commented about this in the past. 523(a) says which taxes are not discharged. What's not-discharged is auto-maticaly not-discharged so they may be right. I'm not sure if I'm missing
something here. I'm very interested in this obviously since we have to
advise the clients. It doesn't come up because the taxes are paid by the bank
usually at some point and even the county, as bad as it needs the money,
can't collect twice.
Thinking about it some more, these may be personal property taxes from a
business. Check on that.
McNally" wrote:
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> Listmates,
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> PC lost real property to foreclosure on 2/19/2009
>
>
>
> PC files Chapter 7 on 5/22/2009, discharge 9/28/2009
>
>
>
> On April 7, 2010, the LA County Tax Assessor files 2 Certificates of
> unsecured tax liens against PC; identified as for the "2009 tax year"
>
>
>
> Is this a violation of the discharge injunction?
>
>
>
> Gerry
>
>
>
> McNally Bus Card Smaller
>
>
>
> Gerald McNally
>
> McNally & Associates, P.C.
>
> 517 East Wilson Ave., Ste 104
>
> Glendale, CA 91206
>
> 818.507.5100
>
> Fax: 818.507.5001
>
>
>
> Notice to Recipient: This email is meant for only the intended
> recipient of the transmission and may be a communication privileged by
> law. If you received this email in error, and review, use,
> dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly
> prohibited. Please notify us immediately of the error by return email
> and please delete this message and any and all duplicates of this
> message from your system. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
>
>
>
> IRS Circular 230 Disclosure: In order to comply with the requirements
> imposed by the Internal Revenue Service, we inform you that any U.S.
> tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments)
> is not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i)
> avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue code or (ii) promoting,
> marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter
> addressed herein.
>
Taxes may stem from a boat or other personal property.
Mark T.
JesseeLaw Offices of Mark T. Jessee"A Debt Relief Agency"50 W.Hillcrest Drive, Suite 200Thousand Oaks, CA 91360(805) 497-5868 (805)
497-5864 (Facsimile)
In a message dated 6/5/2013 4:49:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
jhayes@hayesbklaw.com writes:
Boy that's scary. Bro Dennis-McGoldrick has commented about this in the
past. 523(a) says which taxes are not discharged. What's not-discharged is
auto-maticaly not-discharged so they may be right. I'm not sure if I'm missing
something here. I'm very interested in this obviously since we have to advise
the clients. It doesn't come up because the taxes are paid by the bank usually
at some point and even the county, as bad as it needs the money, can't collect
twice. Thinking about it some more, these may be personal property
taxes from a business. Check on that. --- In cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com, "Gerald
McNally" <gm@...> wrote:>> Listmates,> >
> > PC lost real property to foreclosure on 2/19/2009>
> > > PC files Chapter 7 on 5/22/2009, discharge
9/28/2009> > > > On April 7, 2010, the LA County
Tax Assessor files 2 Certificates of> unsecured tax liens against PC;
identified as for the "2009 tax year"> > > > Is
this a violation of the discharge injunction?> > >
> Gerry> > > > McNally Bus Card
Smaller> > > > Gerald McNally> >
McNally & Associates, P.C.> > 517 East Wilson Ave., Ste 104> > Glendale, CA 91206> > 818.507.5100>
> Fax: 818.507.5001> > > > Notice to
Recipient: This email is meant for only the intended> recipient of the
transmission and may be a communication privileged by> law. If you received this email in error, and review, use,> dissemination,
distribution or copying of this email is strictly> prohibited. Please
notify us immediately of the error by return email> and please delete
this message and any and all duplicates of this> message from your system. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.> > >
> IRS Circular 230 Disclosure: In order to comply with the
requirements> imposed by the Internal Revenue Service, we inform you
that any U.S.> tax advice contained in this communication (including
any attachments)> is not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for
the purpose of (i)> avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue code
or (ii) promoting,> marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter> addressed herein.>
The post was migrated from Yahoo.
Boy that's scary. Bro Dennis-McGoldrick has commented about this in the past. 523(a) says which taxes are not discharged. What's not-discharged is auto-maticaly not-discharged so they may be right. I'm not sure if I'm missing something here. I'm very interested in this obviously since we have to advise the clients. It doesn't come up because the taxes are paid by the bank usually at some point and even the county, as bad as it needs the money, can't collect twice.
Thinking about it some more, these may be personal property taxes from a business. Check on that.
>
> Listmates,
>
>
>
> PC lost real property to foreclosure on 2/19/2009
>
>
>
> PC files Chapter 7 on 5/22/2009, discharge 9/28/2009
>
>
>
> On April 7, 2010, the LA County Tax Assessor files 2 Certificates of
> unsecured tax liens against PC; identified as for the "2009 tax year"
>
>
>
> Is this a violation of the discharge injunction?
>
>
>
> Gerry
>
>
>
> McNally Bus Card Smaller
>
>
>
> Gerald McNally
>
> McNally & Associates, P.C.
>
> 517 East Wilson Ave., Ste 104
>
> Glendale, CA 91206
>
> 818.507.5100
>
> Fax: 818.507.5001
>
>
>
> Notice to Recipient: This email is meant for only the intended
> recipient of the transmission and may be a communication privileged by
> law. If you received this email in error, and review, use,
> dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly
> prohibited. Please notify us immediately of the error by return email
> and please delete this message and any and all duplicates of this
> message from your system. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
>
>
>
> IRS Circular 230 Disclosure: In order to comply with the requirements
> imposed by the Internal Revenue Service, we inform you that any U.S.
> tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments)
> is not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i)
> avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue code or (ii) promoting,
> marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter
> addressed herein.
>
The post was migrated from Yahoo.
Hi Gerald,
See 507(a)(8)(B) property taxes incurred a year before the Chapter are
not dischargeable.
Shannon A. Doyle
Attorney at Law
100 N. Barranca Avenue, Suite 250
West Covina, CA 91791-1600
Tel: (626) 646-2555
Fax: (626) 332-8644
www.blclaw.com
The post was migrated from Yahoo.
Listmates,
PC lost real property to foreclosure on 2/19/2009
PC files Chapter 7 on 5/22/2009, discharge 9/28/2009
On April 7, 2010, the LA County Tax Assessor files 2 Certificates of
unsecured tax liens against PC; identified as for the "2009 tax year"
Is this a violation of the discharge injunction?
Gerry
McNally Bus Card Smaller
Gerald McNally
McNally & Associates, P.C.
517 East Wilson Ave., Ste 104
Glendale, CA 91206
818.507.5100
Fax: 818.507.5001
Notice to Recipient: This email is meant for only the intended
recipient of the transmission and may be a communication privileged by
law. If you received this email in error, and review, use,
dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly
prohibited. Please notify us immediately of the error by return email
and please delete this message and any and all duplicates of this
message from your system. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
IRS Circular 230 Disclosure: In order to comply with the requirements
imposed by the Internal Revenue Service, we inform you that any U.S.
tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments)
is not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i)
avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue code or (ii) promoting,
marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter
addressed herein.
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