Motion to Avoid Lien- Service Question

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You can always have the client retrieve a copy of the complaint from the Superior Court file. The client can also cough up some extra money and pay
you to do it....
Mark T. Jessee
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In a message dated 7/8/2013 8:03:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
nathanberneman@yahoo.com writes:
Thanks Mark. The problem on some of these is that the liens were recordedmostly in 2005, 2007 and client does not have the complaints. I am going
to see if I can get anything from him though as to addresses for these
companies.
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To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Motion to Avoid Lien- Service Question
If it is not an insured financial institution and incorporated, an LLC orlimited partership, look at the Secretary of State website for an address. If not registered in CA, look at copy of complaint for its state of
incorporation and look there. If not a corporation, LLC, or LP have the debtor
provide records of the creditor's address. Serve the attorney/law firm too
at the current address on the State Bar website.
Mark T. Jessee
Law Offices of Mark T. Jessee
"A Debt Relief Agency"
50 W. Hillcrest Drive, Suite 200
Thousand Oaks, CA 91360
(805) 497-5868 (805) 497-5864 (Facsimile)
In a message dated 7/7/2013 9:48:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
nathanberneman@yahoo.com writes:
What if the Judgment lien says the creditor is the "Company name" c/o
attorney?
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To: "cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Motion to Avoid Lien- Service Question
Thank you, all! I love this group!
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To: "cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Motion to Avoid Lien- Service Question
four or five people have answered this question but Gio had the best
answer. You cannot pick the defendant's attorney. Use certified service on an
officer.
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On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Sujin Kim wrote:
Thanks for your reply. Does the fact that I served the attorney not
exempt me from serving the officer pursuant to FRBP 7004 (h)(1)?
You can always have the client retrieve a copy of the complaint from the
Superior Court file. The client can also cough up some extra money
and pay you to do it....

Mark T.
JesseeLaw Offices of Mark T. Jessee"A Debt Relief Agency"50 W.Hillcrest Drive, Suite 200Thousand Oaks, CA 91360(805) 497-5868 (805)
497-5864 (Facsimile)

In a message dated 7/8/2013 8:03:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
nathanberneman@yahoo.com writes:




Thanks Mark. The problem on some of these is that the liens
were recorded mostly in 2005, 2007 and client does not have the complaints.
I am going to see if I can get anything from him though as to addresses
for these companies.





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PMSubject: Re: [cdcbaa]
Motion to Avoid Lien- Service Question






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Thanks Mark. The problem on some of these is that the liens were recorded mostly in 2005, 2007 and client does not have the complaints. I am going to see if I can get anything from him though as to addresses for these companies.
________________________________
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Motion to Avoid Lien- Service Question
If itis not an insured financial institution and
incorporated,an LLC or limited partership, look at the Secretary of State
website for an address.If not registered in CA, look at copy ofcomplaint for its state of incorporation and look there. If not a
corporation, LLC, or LP have thedebtor provide records of the creditor's
address. Serve the attorney/law firmtoo at the current address on
the State Bar website.
Mark T.
Jessee
Law Offices of Mark T. Jessee
"A Debt Relief Agency"
50 W.
Hillcrest Drive, Suite 200
Thousand Oaks, CA 91360
(805) 497-5868 (805)
497-5864 (Facsimile)
In a message dated 7/7/2013 9:48:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
nathanberneman@yahoo.com writes:
>What if the Judgment lien says the creditor is the "Company name" c/o attorney?
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>________________________________
>To: "cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com"
>Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:29 PM
>Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Motion to Avoid Lien- Service Question
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>Thank you, all! I love this group!
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>________________________________
>To: "cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com"
>Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 7:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Motion to Avoid Lien- Service Question
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>four or five people have answered this question but Gio had the best answer. You cannot pick the defendant's attorney. Use certified service on an officer.
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>On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Sujin Kim wrote:
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>>Thanks for your reply. Does the fact that I served the attorney not exempt me from serving the officer pursuant to FRBP 7004 (h)(1)?
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If it is not an insured financial institution and incorporated, an LLC orlimited partership, look at the Secretary of State website for an address.If not registered in CA, look at copy of complaint for its state of
incorporation and look there. If not a corporation, LLC, or LP have the debtor
provide records of the creditor's address. Serve the attorney/law firm too
at the current address on the State Bar website.
Mark T. Jessee
Law Offices of Mark T. Jessee
"A Debt Relief Agency"
50 W. Hillcrest Drive, Suite 200
Thousand Oaks, CA 91360
(805) 497-5868 (805) 497-5864 (Facsimile)
In a message dated 7/7/2013 9:48:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
nathanberneman@yahoo.com writes:
What if the Judgment lien says the creditor is the "Company name" c/o
attorney?
____________________________________
To: "cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Motion to Avoid Lien- Service Question
Thank you, all! I love this group!
____________________________________
To: "cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Motion to Avoid Lien- Service Question
four or five people have answered this question but Gio had the best
answer. You cannot pick the defendant's attorney. Use certified service on an
officer.
d
Sent from my brain
On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Sujin Kim wrote:
Thanks for your reply. Does the fact that I served the attorney not
exempt me from serving the officer pursuant to FRBP 7004 (h)(1)?
If it is not an insured financial institution and
incorporated, an LLC or limited partership, look at the Secretary of State
website for an address. If not registered in CA, look at copy ofcomplaint for its state of incorporation and look there. If not a
corporation, LLC, or LP have the debtor provide records of the creditor's
address. Serve the attorney/law firm too at the current address on
the State Bar website.

Mark T.
JesseeLaw Offices of Mark T. Jessee"A Debt Relief Agency"50 W.Hillcrest Drive, Suite 200Thousand Oaks, CA 91360(805) 497-5868 (805)
497-5864 (Facsimile)

In a message dated 7/7/2013 9:48:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
nathanberneman@yahoo.com writes:




What if the Judgment lien says the creditor is the "Company name"
c/o attorney?





From:
Sujin Kim <hopelawgroup@yahoo.com>To: "cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com"
<cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:29 PMSubject: Re: [cdcbaa]
Motion to Avoid Lien- Service Question




Thank
you, all! I love this group!






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<cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 7:52
PMSubject: Re: [cdcbaa]
Motion to Avoid Lien- Service Question




four or five people have answered this question but Gio had the best answer. You cannot pick the defendant's attorney. Use certified
service on an officer.
dSent from my brain
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What if the Judgment lien says the creditor is the "Company name" c/o attorney?
________________________________
To: "cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Motion to Avoid Lien- Service Question
Thank you, all! I love this group!
________________________________
To: "cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Motion to Avoid Lien- Service Question
four or five people have answered this question but Gio had the best answer. You cannot pick the defendant's attorney. Use certified service on an officer.
d
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On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Sujin Kim wrote:
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>Thanks for your reply. Does the fact that I served the attorney not exempt me from serving the officer pursuant to FRBP 7004 (h)(1)?

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Thank you, all! I love this group!
________________________________
To: "cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Motion to Avoid Lien- Service Question
four or five people have answered this question but Gio had the best answer. You cannot pick the defendant's attorney. Use certified service on an officer.
d
Sent from my brain
On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Sujin Kim wrote:
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>Thanks for your reply. Does the fact that I served the attorney not exempt me from serving the officer pursuant to FRBP 7004 (h)(1)?

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four or five people have answered this question but Gio had the best answer. You cannot pick the defendant's attorney. Use certified service on an officer.
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On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Sujin Kim wrote:
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> Thanks for your reply. Does the fact that I served the attorney not exempt me from serving the officer pursuant to FRBP 7004 (h)(1)?
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Use a hyphen when necessary to clarify. reserve is a word already, so re-serve is proper.
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On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:54 PM, "Mark J. Markus" wrote:
> I think reserve should be hyphenated in this context (re-serve). But Dennis can clarify :)
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> On 6/7/2013 12:14 PM, Clifford Bordeaux wrote:
>> I don't think so. In any case, it doesn't really matter. Just spend the extra four bucks and serve the bank via certified mail at their FDIC address and you should be fine. If you have an address for the attorney in the bankruptcy case, go ahead and reserve them too. It is okay to reserve and refile the motion unless the judge specifically denied your motion with prejudice.
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Sujin,
Don't forget either:
1. LBR 4003-1(c )(2) (service on all encumbrances on the property
2. In re Goswami (if you're filing a motion to reopen and plan to
amend schedule C, you must mention it in your motion to reopen).
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In case it's not clear, an attorney who has appeared and/or one who
prepared a filed proof of claim should also be served, but it is not
sufficient to do so; you also must serve properly under 7004.
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charsetndows-1252
No.
And I think you need to review all the motions you filed in prior cases and make sure you serve those properly to avoid problems in the future. See this post.

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