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LOU and Judges Copies of proposed orders

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:59 pm
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From the Court Manual, Appendix F"
1.0 Which Filed Documents Require a Judges Copy?
[LBR 5005-2(d)]
1.1 General Rule. Local Bankruptcy Rule 5005-2(d) requires that a copy of
every document
filed must be served on the judge who presides over the bankruptcy case or
adversary
proceeding.
1.2 Exceptions to Judges Copy. The following filed documents do not need
to be served
upon a judge pursuant to Local Bankruptcy Rule 5005-2(d).
a. Chapter 7 Case Commencement Documents. Case commencement documents
for voluntary chapter 7 cases, including amended case commencement
documents. [This includes all documents identified in Court Manual sections
2.1(b).]
b . THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION IS NOT APPLICABLE TO CASES PENDING
IN SANTA BARBARA (THE NORTHERN DIVISION):
Chapter 12 and 13 Case Commencement Documents. Case commencement
documents for voluntary chapter 12 and 13 cases, including amended case
commencement documents. [This includes all documents identified in Court
Manual sections 2.1(e) and 2.1(f).]
c. Proofs of Claim. Proofs of claim filed in any bankruptcy case,
regardless of
chapter.
d. Chapter 13 Non-hearing Motions/Applications. Motions/applications filed
under
LBR 3015-1(w), except as part of the declaration of service/non-response
under
LBR 3015-1(w)(2).
e. Other Non-hearing Motions/Applications. Any motion/application filed
under LBR
9013-1(o), or any motion/application which, under Local Bankruptcy Rules
may be
filed with a similar notice and opportunity procedure, except as part of the
declaration of service/non-response required under LBR 9013-1(o)(3)(A).
f. Request for Courtesy NEF. Request for Courtesy Notice of Electronic
Filing.
g. Local Forms, Official Forms. The following Local Forms and Official
Forms:
COURT FORMS
Abstract of Judgment
Certification of Judgment for Registration in Another District
Change of Address
Request for Special Notice
Writ of ExecutionAP P E N D I X F
C o u r t M a n u a l F - 4 A p r i l 2 0 1 2
LOCAL BANKRUPTCY RULES FORMS
F 2090-1.4 Substitution of Attorney
F 3001.2 Notice of Transfer of Claim Pursuant to FRBP 3001(e)
F 3007-1.2 Notice of Trustees Debtor in Possessions Request for
Copy of Proof of Claim
F 3015-1.7 Rights and Responsibilities Agreement Between
Chapter 13 Debtors and Their Attorneys
OFFICIAL FORMS
Form B23
(Official Form 23)
Debtors Certification of Completion of Postpetition
Instructional Course Concerning Personal Financial
Management
h. Chapter 11 Interim Statements and Operating Reports. All interim
statements and
operating reports required by the U.S. Trustee in chapter 11 cases per LBR
2015-
2(c).
Sincerely,
*
Daniela P. Romero*
*Law Office of Daniela P. Romero, APLC*
*1015 North Lake Ave., Ste. 212*
*Pasadena, CA 91104*
*Tel: (626) 817-2611*
*Fax: (626) 296-6991*
*email: dromerolaw@gmail.com *
*web: www.pasadenabankruptcylaw.com*

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LOU and Judges Copies of proposed orders

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:41 pm
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Agreed.
Joseph E. Caceres, Esq.
Caceres & Shamash, LLP
8200 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 400
Beverly Hills, CA 90211
Tel: (310) 205-3400
Fax: (310) 878-8308
E-mail: jec@locs.com

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LOU and Judges Copies of proposed orders

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:39 pm
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That's just semantics. I'm sure when told a courtesy copy is not needed,
people think that refers to the "Judge's Copy."
Giovanni Orantes, Esq.
Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1980
Los Angeles, CA 90010
Tel: (213) 389-4362
Fax: (877) 789-5776
e-mail: go@gobklaw.com
website: www.gobklaw.com

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LOU and Judges Copies of proposed orders

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:53 pm
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I am surprised, too. Judge Riblet has been bouncing my orders for weeks
now even though the courtesy copies were delivered. I personally delivered
them an additional two times, but the Court still claims it didn't receive
them.
Giovanni Orantes, Esq.
Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1980
Los Angeles, CA 90010
Tel: (213) 389-4362
Fax: (877) 789-5776
e-mail: go@gobklaw.com
website: www.gobklaw.com
I am surprised, too. Judge Riblet has been bouncing my orders for weeks now even though the courtesy copies were delivered. I personally delivered them an additional two times, but the Court still claims it didn't receive them.
-- Giovanni Orantes, Esq. Orantes Law Firm, P.C.3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1980Los Angeles, CA 90010Tel: (213) 389-4362Fax: (877) 789-5776e-mail: go@gobklaw.com
website: www.gobklaw.com

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LOU and Judges Copies of proposed orders

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:51 pm
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Definitely news to me - I just had the same order rejected twice in Los Angeles on the basis that a courtesy copy was not delivered to chambers (first time this has ever happened to me). Of course, I have return slips from our attorney service claiming to have delivered the order both times, but that is besides the point here...
Joseph E. Caceres, Esq.
Caceres & Shamash, LLP
8200 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 400
Beverly Hills, CA 90211
Tel: (310) 205-3400
Fax: (310) 878-8308
E-mail: jec@locs.com

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LOU and Judges Copies of proposed orders

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:48 pm
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I just came from an OCBF seminar here in Orange County that was given by the
clerks. The topic was basically, how to get your orders entered. So they
pointed out some of the more common things lawyers do to slow the clerks
down.
They said that a courtesy copy of an Order did not need to be provided to
the judges. When questioned, they said this was district wide and that the
local rules would be amended in June to reflect this. But we did not need
to provide them now, as they are merely recycled.
Others at the seminar seemed as surprised as I did. Has anyone else heard
this before and I am just the last to know?
Desiree Causey, Esq.
Law Office of Desiree Causey
17011 Beach Blvd., Suite 900
Huntington Beach, CA 92647
714-375-6663
714-908-7646 (fax)
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I just came from an OCBF seminar here in Orange County that
was given by the clerks. The topic was basically, how to get your orders
entered. So they pointed out some of the more common things lawyers do to slow
the clerks down.

They said that a courtesy copy of an Order did not need to
be provided to the judges. When questioned, they said this was district wide
and that the local rules would be amended in June to reflect this. But we did
not need to provide them now, as they are merely recycled.

Others at the seminar seemed as surprised as I did. anyone else heard this before and I am just the last to know?


Desiree Causey, Esq.
Law Office of Desiree Causey
17011 Beach Blvd., Suite 900
Huntington Beach, CA 92647

714-375-6663
714-908-7646 (fax)

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attachments thereto) was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be
used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be
imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law
provisions.
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