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2nd mortgage from Business Vendor

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:56 am
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Cram down is the confirmation of a plan over the objection of a creditor. Strip down is the reduction of a lien to the value of the collateral.
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> On Sep 8, 2016, at 11:33 AM, sam@southbaybk.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> Another consideration - if you are successful with the cram down (or is it a strip-down Dennis?), the $140,000 or so in supported equity will have to be paid back with interest and trustee fees over 60 months. Ouch.
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2nd mortgage from Business Vendor

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:42 am
by Yahoo Bot

Business loans usually are secured by more than just a house and a UCC-1
would likely show you that. Get it from the Secretary of State.
On Thursday, September 8, 2016, Shannon Doyle
sdoyle@ebankruptcyassistants.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> Hi Steve,
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> I researched this a few years back so unless there has been some new case
> law I am not aware of - If the debt is secured solely by the principal
> residence you cant cram it down unless the business operated out of the
> home in which case the deed must specifically state the loan is for
> business purposes (not strictly residential). Also, if the loan was secured
> by multiple assets along with the principal residence then you have a good
> argument for a cramdown. Good luck. Let us know if you find any good
> cases.
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2016 3:12 PM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
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> *Subject:* [cdcbaa] 2nd mortgage from Business Vendor
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> I have a potential Chapter 13 Debtor who gave an old vendor from an old
> business a 2nd Deed of Trust to secure invoices. Business fails. Years
> later vendor starts foreclosure.
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> The debt is $280,000 and the equity in the house secured by the deed of
> trust is half the amount owed.
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> I know with a business *property* I can cram down the loan to a secured
> and unsecured portion.
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> However, this is a business loan, on a residential property, and not the
> typical type of loan.
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> Does the *In re Nobleman* prohibition on cramming down partially secured
> debt apply here, or is it different due to the nature of the loan?
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> Steve
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Business loans usually are secured by more than just a house and a UCC-1 would likely show you that. Get it from the Secretary of State.On Thursday, September 8, 2016, Shannon Doyle sdoyle@ebankruptcyassistants.com [cdcbaa] <cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi Steve,
I researched this a few years back so unless there has been some new case law I am not aware of - If the debt is secured solely by the principal residence you cant cram it
down unless the business operated out of the home in which case the deed must specifically state the loan is for business purposes (not strictly residential). Also, if the loan was secured by multiple assets along with the principal residence then you have
a good argument for a cramdown. Good luck. Let us know if you find any good cases.
Shannon A. Doyle
Attorney | Virtual Bankruptcy Assistant
Phone: 855-378-4080
Fax: 562-249-8435
Licensed in California

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2nd mortgage from Business Vendor

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:12 pm
by Yahoo Bot

I have a potential Chapter 13 Debtor who gave an old vendor from an old business a 2nd Deed of Trust to secure invoices. Business fails. Years later vendor starts foreclosure.
The debt is $280,000 and the equity in the house secured by the deed of trust is half the amount owed.
I know with a business property I can cram down the loan to a secured and unsecured portion.
However, this is a business loan, on a residential property, and not the typical type of loan.
Does the In re Nobleman prohibition on cramming down partially secured debt apply here, or is it different due to the nature of the loan?
Steve
Law Offices of Steven B. Lever
Steven B. Lever
* Tel. (562) 436-5456 ext. 1
* Fax (562) 485-6886
* sblever@leverlaw.com
www.leverlaw.com
I have a potential Chapter 13 Debtor who gave an old vendor from an old business a 2nd Deed of Trust to secure invoices. Business fails. Years later vendor
starts foreclosure.

The debt is $280,000 and the equity in the house secured by the deed of trust is half the amount owed.

I know with a business
property I can cram down the loan to a secured and unsecured portion.

However, this is a business loan, on a residential property, and not the typical type of loan.

Does the
In re Nobleman prohibition on cramming down partially secured debt apply here, or is it different due to the nature of the loan?

Steve


Law Offices of Steven B. Lever

Steven B. Lever
(
Tel. (562) 436-5456 ext. 1
(
Fax (562) 485-6886
*
sblever@leverlaw.com

www.leverlaw.com



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