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The best con is the long con. Doesn't mean she's at fault, even if it is a Nigerian scam. Stupidity is not necessarily tantamount to criminality.
Jay S. Fleischman, Esq.
Shaev & Fleischman, LLP
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On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:55 AM, "Larry Webb" wrote:
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> Are you sure she really had an ongoing business? This sounds more akin to the Nigerian inheritance scam i.e. we need somebody to act as the middleman for our shipments to Africa for which you will be paid a huge cut .... > Doctored foreign check vs doctored foreign credit card is the only difference.
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> Potential Client is a retired person with an online business where she basically takes orders for electrical equipment and has the product dropped shipped to customers. She takes payment thru PayPal. In Jan/Feb her business peaks and she sell about $200,000 in product. PayPal processed the credit card transactions. Shipper verifies the product went to Africa. In March she starts getting chargebacks from PayPal, turns out the credit card information used to purchase the product was stolen. PayPal will not indemnify her; apparently according to PayPal, these transactions are card-not-present-transactions and liability lies with the seller/merchant for not verifying identity.
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charsetndows-1252
The best con is the long con. Doesn't mean she's at fault, even if it is a Nigerian scam. Stupidity is not necessarily tantamount to criminality.-------------Jay S. Fleischman, Esq.Shaev & Fleischman, LLPI help people get smart solutions to their bill problems.
http://www.ConsumerHelpCentral.com556 S Fair Oaks Ave Ste 101-152Pasadena CA 91105-2656T: 626-808-4343 x704E:
jay@sflawca.comEmail isn't secure, so it's not confidential. By communicating with me by email, you understand that it's not confidential.On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:55 AM, "Larry Webb" <
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That was my first thought too. Yes the business was up and running for in 2012, she gave me her gross and net for the year. She had sales of $60k-$51K in expenses for 2012. She responded to one of the radio ads for work at home that actually got her up and running. She thought the business was really taking off this year. If this is a con, its a long con. Larry@webbklaw. comLaw Offices of Larry Webb484 Mobil Ste 43Camarillo Ca 93010 P 805.987.1400F 805.987.2866C 805.750.2150 From:
cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark JesseeSent: Monday, April 08, 2013 4:47 PMTo:
cdcbaa@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [cdcbaa] PayPal Fraud Are you sure she really had an ongoing business? This sounds more akin to the Nigerian inheritance scam i.e. we need somebody to act as the middleman for our shipments to Africa for which you will be paid a huge cut .... Doctored foreign check vs doctored foreign credit card is the only difference. Standard scam taking advantage of gullible seniors.... Mark JesseeSent from my iPhoneOn Apr 8, 2013, at 3:20 PM, "Larry Webb" <
larry@webbklaw.com> wrote: Potential Client is a retired person with an online business where she basically takes orders for electrical equipment and has the product dropped shipped to customers. She takes payment thru PayPal. In Jan/Feb her business peaks and she sell about $200,000 in product. PayPal processed the credit card transactions. Shipper verifies the product went to Africa. In March she starts getting chargebacks from PayPal, turns out the credit card information used to purchase the product was stolen. PayPal will not indemnify her; apparently according to PayPal, these transactions are card-not-present-transactions and liability lies with the seller/merchant for not verifying identity.
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