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Good points. You can also speak with a supervisor. I have had a
supervisor at the county recorder, examine a document after a clerk rejected it, and
give an ok for recording.
If it is in proper form (certified copy from bankruptcy court - and
applicable cover page for recorders notation), then it should not be rejected for
recording. Too many pages??? - anyone ever read through HOA CCRs?
You pay for the recorded document by the page, so I can hardly imagine they would not record a document.
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Mark Jesses response is dead on correct, in my opinion. The APN is not a
part of the legal description and is a title company accommodation. If
the legal description and APN do not correlate, the legal description
prevails. I actually litigated that once many decades ago. I learned then that
the APN is a legal irrelevancy. Having sid that getting past the gatekeeper
at the recorders window is the issue and I have successfully done EXACTLY
as Mark suggests. Slap the cover sheet (available on the county recorders web portal usually, and put the APN just under the When recorded return
to part in the upper left corner, and they might consider that compliance
with whatever local improper practice they are employing to reject your submission.
If that does not work, Id call a title company who records in that
jurisdiction regularly and ask if there is a work around. Title companies get
favorable treatment at the recording window compared to those of us in thegeneral public. I have been rejected on technical grounds several times over
the years with recordings in Orange County, only to give the same exact
document to a title officer I know who gets them recorded as an
accommo0dation through her company without comment.
-Jeffrey B. Smith**
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Long Beach, CA 90802
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Of California As A Specialist
In Bankruptcy Law
Good points. You can also speak with a supervisor. I have had asupervisor at the county recorder, examine a document after a clerk rejected it,
and give an ok for recording.

If it is in proper form (certified copy from bankruptcy court - and
applicable cover page for recorders notation), then it should not be rejected
for recording. Too many pages??? - anyone ever read through HOA
CCRs?

You pay for the recorded document by the page, so I can hardly imagine they
would not record a document.

Very truly
yours,Shai OvedThe Law Offices of Shai Oved7445 Topanga Cyn. Blvd.,
Suite 220 Canoga Park,
California 91303Tel: (818)
992-6588Fax: (818)
992-6511Email: ssoesq@aol.com
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Mark Jesse's response is dead on correct, in my opinion. The APN is not a part of the legal description and is a title company accommodation. If the legal description and APN do not correlate, the legal description prevails. I actually litigated that once many decades ago. I learned then that the APN is a legal irrelevancy. Having sid that getting past the gatekeeper at the recorder's window is the issue and I have successfully done EXACTLY as Mark suggests. Slap the cover sheet (available on the county recorder's web portal usually, and put the APN just under the "When recorded return to" part in the upper left corner, and they might consider that compliance with whatever local improper practice they are employing to reject your submission.
If that does not work, I'd call a title company who records in that jurisdiction regularly and ask if there is a work around. Title companies get favorable treatment at the recording window compared to those of us in the general public. I have been rejected on technical grounds several times over the years with recordings in Orange County, only to give the same exact document to a title officer I know who gets them recorded as an accommo0dation through her company without comment.
-Jeffrey B. Smith**
CURD, GALINDO & SMITH, L.L.P.
301 East Ocean Blvd. #1700
Long Beach, CA 90802
(562) 624-1177
(562) 624-1178 fax
(310) 993-6560 cellular
www.expertbk.com
**Certified By The State Bar
Of California As A Specialist
In Bankruptcy Law
Mark Jesse’s response is dead on correct, in my opinion. The APN is not a part of the legal description and is a title company accommodation. If the legal description and APN do not correlate, the legal description prevails. I actually
litigated that once many decades ago. I learned then that the APN is a legal irrelevancy. Having sid that getting past the gatekeeper at the recorder’s window is the issue and I have successfully done EXACTLY as Mark suggests. Slap the cover sheet (available
on the county recorder’s web portal usually, and put the APN just un
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ConsiderusingF4003-2.4Dec_AfterDisch and F4003-2.4OrderAfterDisch, if you haven't done so already.
Attach the legal description with APN to the order.
Most judges process these orders ina few days.
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Hi Everyone,
I avoided a junior lien in a chapter 13 case. Debtor completed her Chapter 13 case successfully about 2 months ago. She went to record a certified copy of the order avoiding lien in Humbolt County (the county where she lives.) Recorders office didn't accept the Order because it did not have the APN on it. I called the Humbolt County Clerks Office and spoke to a clerk there. I asked her it the debtor could record both the motion avoiding lien (which has ALL of the relevant info) and the order. She told me no that it was too many pages.
Any suggestions on what to do in this situation?

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Get an amended order with the APN listed in the order.
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Hi Everyone,
I avoided a junior lien in a chapter 13 case. Debtor completed her Chapter 13 case successfully about 2 months ago. She went to record a certified copy of the order avoiding lien in Humbolt County (the county where she lives.) Recorders office didn't accept the Order because it did not have the APN on it. I called the Humbolt County Clerks Office and spoke to a clerk there. I asked her it the debtor could record both the motion avoiding lien (which has ALL of the relevant info) and the order. She told me no that it was too many pages.
Any suggestions on what to do in this situation?

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