Use of 12/1/15 forms for emergency petitions filed=20
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:47 pm
I was able to file the "old" form schedules, statements, and compliance documents as of 12/1 for a case filed in November. It was a SFV case. QC(Quality Control) rejected a separate issue for document not being flattened
(filed within minutes of the other schedules) but I didn't get a bounce
notice on the forms (yet). The ECF categories when filing actual identifycertain (apparently eligible forms and notes them as "for cases filed before
12/1") so I don't think it is an absolute absolute.
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In a message dated 12/2/2015 2:01:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com writes:
At a recent San Fernando Valley Bar meeting, Judge Tighe clearly said we have to use the new forms on cases already filed.
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Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Use of 12/1/15 forms for emergency petitions filed
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We got a hold of the ecf helpdesk and were told it is acceptable to use
the old forms for cases filed before 12/1. I have heard worrying storiesfrom a cdcbaa member about what happens once you actually file the schedules,
but we'll power through.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Michael Avanesian
_michael@avanesianlaw.com_ (mailto:michael@avanesianlaw.com) [cdcbaa] wrote:
Absolutely mandatory.
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On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Giovanni Orantes _go@gobklaw.com_
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Is it mandatory to use the new forms for cases filed before 12/1/15 on theold forms?
The public announcement says only that the forms are effective on 12/1/15but I cannot find some rule saying whether they are effective for cases
"filed on or after 12/1/15" or what.
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I was able to file the "old" form schedules, statements, and compliance
documents as of 12/1 for a case filed in November. It was a SFVcase. QC (Quality Control) rejected a separate issue for document notbeing flattened (filed within minutes of the other schedules) but I didn't get a
bounce notice on the forms (yet). The ECF categories when filing actual
identify certain (apparently eligible forms and notes them as "for cases
filed before 12/1") so I don't think it is an absolute absolute.
Very truly
yours,Shai OvedThe Law Offices of Shai Oved7445 Topanga Cyn. Blvd.,
Suite 220Canoga Park, California 91303Tel: (818) 992-6588Fax: (818) 992-6511Email: ssoesq@aol.com www.shaioved.com________________The
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Code. Shai Oved is a Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist by The State
Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization.
In a message dated 12/2/2015 2:01:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com writes:
At
a recent San Fernando Valley Bar meeting, Judge Tighe clearly said we
have to use the new forms on cases already filed.
Best
regards
Larry
Webb
California
Board of Legal Specialization
Certified
Specialist in Bankruptcy Law
State Bar of
California 229344
Central
District California
"A Debt
Relief Agency"
Law Offices
of Larry Webb
484 Mobil Ste
43
Camarillo Ca
93010
P
805.987.1400
C
805.750.2150
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cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com] Sent:
Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:45 PMTo:
cdcbaa@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [cdcbaa] Use of 12/1/15 forms
for emergency petitions filed before 12/1/15
Please keep
us update on this because it is obviously a big issue for us
all
M. Erik Clark100 N. Barranca Street, Suite
250West Covina, CA 91791
www.BorowitzClark.comOffice: (626)
332-8600Fax: (626) 332-8644Board Certified in Consumer Bankruptcy American Board of Certification
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From: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 1:29 PMTo: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.comSubject:
Re: [cdcbaa] Use of 12/1/15 forms for emergency petitions filed before
12/1/15
We got a hold of the ecf helpdesk and were told it is
acceptable to use the old forms for cases filed before 12/1. I have heard worrying stories from a cdcbaa member about what happens once you
actually file the schedules, but we'll power through.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Michael Avanesian michael@avanesianlaw.com [cdcbaa]
<cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Absolutely
mandatory.
Sincerely,
Michael Avanesian, Esq.
Avanesian Law Firm
101 N. Brand Blvd. PH 1920Glendale, CA
91203
Tel: 818.276.2477 | Fax: 818.208.4550
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