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Can I get a writ of execution without reopening the Chapter 13 case?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:55 pm
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You could likely submit it exparte (manually) with a POS and use return envelopes for service list
Sent from my iPhone - please excuse typos.
Thank you.
> On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Nicholas Gebelt ngebelt@gebeltlaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> Dear Bankruptcy Brain Trust,
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> I had a Chapter 13 client for whom I did a lot of work. I filed a fee app and Judge Zurzolo granted it in January 2014. Shortly thereafter the clients case was dismissed and he disappeared. I just located him, and would like to use the services of the U.S. Marshals to garnish his wages. I called their office and spoke to a very helpful person who told me that I had to get Judge Zurzolo to issue a writ of execution. I assume I can do this by motion. I would like to keep the costs down. Since the case is closed, do I have to file a motion to reopen it first, or can I file the motion for the writ without reopening the case. I havent found anything in the rules or case law that is on point.
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> Any thoughts? If you have successfully done this sort of thing, would you please give me the case number so I can mimic your work?
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> Thanks for your help.
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 8:46 PM
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> Subject: RE: [cdcbaa] Re: Revoking Discharge after Conversion to 13
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> Mark;
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> Thats pretty interesting. So unlike a case filed under Chapter 13 where the discharge comes at the end, you start as a 7, get the discharge and then pay?
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> Did you do this because you wanted to deal with an asset case?
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> What happens if they start making the payments and then stop? The case gets dismissed with a discharge?
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> Im having a hard time getting this.
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 8:26 PM
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> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Re: Revoking Discharge after Conversion to 13
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> Why do you say there would be nothing to pay in the Chapter 13 if the discharge order were to stand? It's still the same case. It's been 15 years since I had a case like this, and had to research the issue but Judge Riblet granted a motion to convert from Chapter 7 to 13 3 weeks after discharge and specifically delineated in her order that revocation of the discharge was not necessary. I recall a citation being provided but I long since shredded the file and it does not appear the order can retrieved from Pacer. The case was In Re Arnold 9:00-bk-13214-RR
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> In a message dated 1/26/2016 5:39:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com writes:
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> The discharge needs to be vacated because there would be nothing to pay in the Chapter 13 after conversion if the discharge order were to stand.
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> Im thinking the court may do it automatically without a motion.
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> The reason I asked this is because I thought I was going to not be able to settle with the Chapter 7 Trustee in an asset case. I made many offers after the Trustee responded, but they never took me up on oneor even paid attention or communicated. Then I saw a Request for Special Notice from an attorney who is a Trustee as well and I know that they were going to want the attorney employed in the case, which to me signaled an impasse if not an outright fight with a possible community property tracing.
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> So I wanted to convert to Chapter 13 way after the discharge was entered in this case that has been pending 9-10 months.
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> I may have jumped the gun though, as its possible the attorney for the Trustee will finally communicate and work out a settlement after all.
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 3:57 PM
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> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Re: Revoking Discharge after Conversion to 13
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> Do you need a chapter 13 discharge (e.g. for divorce property settlements)?
> If not, I don't see the point in vacating the discharge.
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> On Jan 26, 2016 3:52 PM, "Michael Avanesian michael@avanesianlaw.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
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> Why does the discharge need to be vacated? I did not understand that part.
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> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:40 PM, sam@southbaybk.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> Steve - did anyone email you on this or pick up the thread? I have the same situation and am looking for some perspective.
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