Central District Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney's Association

Like Larry I enter the date of the original hearing. The declaration we prepare refers back to that original motion and hearing date and order thereon.
There's no disagreement as to that particular local form being one of the most confusing and in need of revision.
Mark Jessee
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> On Jan 13, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Larry Simons larry@lsimonslaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> I use the date and time of the original LAM motion and have never had a problem
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> On Jan 13, 2015, at 6:34 PM, "Nicholas Gebelt ngebelt@gebeltlaw.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
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>> As a follow up to Marks question about Form F4003-2.4ORDERAFTERDISCH and the related declaration that are filed to get an order stripping off the avoided lien upon Chapter 13 plan completion, the form has a place for hearing date and time. Is a hearing really necessary? If so, what is its purpose? Why isnt the declaration sufficient to get the order? I have looked through the Local Rules and havent found anything that says a hearing is required. Does one self-calendar with the hope that the appearance will be excused?
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>> Has anyone on here lodged the Declaration and Order F4003-2.4ORDERAFTERDISCH.doc to get the recordable order in a Chapter 13 case?
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>> I'm trying to figure out whether it needs to be served on anyone (there's no POS attached) or if a Notice of Lodgement needs to be filed, etc.
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I use the date and time of the original LAM motion and have never had a problem
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On Jan 13, 2015, at 6:34 PM, "Nicholas Gebelt ngebelt@gebeltlaw.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
Dear Listmates,
As a follow up to Marks question about Form F4003-2.4ORDERAFTERDISCH and the related declaration that are filed to get an order stripping off the avoided lien upon Chapter 13 plan completion, the form has a place for hearing date and time. Is a hearing really necessary? If so, what is its purpose? Why isnt the declaration sufficient to get the order? I have looked through the Local Rules and havent found anything that says a hearing is required. Does one self-calendar with the hope that the appearance will be excused?
Thanks,
Nick
Nicholas Gebelt
Nicholas Gebelt, Ph.D., J.D.
Attorney at Law
Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist
Law Offices of Nicholas Gebelt
15150 Hornell Street
Whittier, CA 90604
Phone: 562.777.9159
FAX: 562.946.1365
Email: ngebelt@goodbye2debt.com; ngebelt@gebeltlaw.com
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Blog: www.southerncaliforniabankruptcylawblog.com/
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Dear Listmates,
As a follow up to Mark's question about Form F4003-2.4ORDERAFTERDISCH and the related declaration that are filed to get an order stripping off the avoided lien upon Chapter 13 plan completion, the form has a place for hearing date and time. Is a hearing really necessary? If so, what is its purpose? Why isn't the declaration sufficient to get the order? I have looked through the Local Rules and haven't found anything that says a hearing is required. Does one self-calendar with the hope that the appearance will be excused?
Thanks,
Nick
Nicholas Gebelt
Nicholas Gebelt, Ph.D., J.D.
Attorney at Law
Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist
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Law Offices of Nicholas Gebelt
15150 Hornell Street
Whittier, CA 90604
Phone: 562.777.9159
FAX: 562.946.1365
Email: ngebelt@goodbye2debt.com; ngebelt@gebeltlaw.com
Web: www.goodbye2debt.com
Blog: www.southerncaliforniabankruptcylawblog.com/
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Agree.
Served debtor by and ECF list (automatically), order went through without a problem.Peter M. Lively, J.D., M.B.A.
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On Saturday, December 13, 2014 2:18 PM, "'Leventhal Law Group, P.C.' law@3yl.com [cdcbaa]" wrote:
I did. I served judge and trustee.
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[cdcbaa]" Date:12/13/2014 12:16 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cdcbaa] Ch. 13 Lien Strip Order AFTER discharge
ERDISCH.doc to get the recordable order in a Chapter 13 case?
I'm trying to figure out whether it needs to be served on anyone (there's no POS attached) or if a Notice of Lodgement needs to be filed, etc.
Thanks.
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Mark J. Markus
Law Office of Mark J. Markus
Mailing Address Only:
11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
Studio City, CA 91604-2652
(818)509-1173 (818)332-1180 (fax)
web: http://www.bklaw.com/
Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization
This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency
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I did and lodged it but only judge served.
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> On Dec 13, 2014, at 12:16 PM, 'Mark J. Markus' bklawr@yahoo.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> Has anyone on here lodged the Declaration and Order F4003-2.4ORDERAFTERDISCH.doc to get the recordable order in a Chapter 13 case?
>
> I'm trying to figure out whether it needs to be served on anyone (there's no POS attached) or if a Notice of Lodgement needs to be filed, etc.
>
> Thanks.
> Has anyone on here lodged the Declaration and Order F4003-2.4ORDERAFTERDISCH.doc to get the recordable order in a Chapter 13 case?
>
> I'm trying to figure out whether it needs to be served on anyone (there's no POS attached) or if a Notice of Lodgement needs to be filed, etc.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> *************************
> Mark J. Markus
> Law Office of Mark J. Markus
> Mailing Address Only:
> 11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
> Studio City, CA 91604-2652
> (818)509-1173 (818)332-1180 (fax)
> web: http://www.bklaw.com/
> Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization
> This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency
> ________________________________________________
> NOTICE: This Electronic Message contains information from the law office of Mark J. Markus that may be privileged. The information is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited.
> IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. tax advice contained in this communication (or in any attachment) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed in this communication.
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