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Divorce Attorneys fees and Bankruptcy

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:18 am
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Eric:
I have some thoughts on this, but I need to know specifically what the order/jmt says. Please quote it exactly so I can respond.
If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me.
Pat
Patrick T. Green
Attorney at Law
Fitzgerald & Green
1010 E. Union St. Ste. 206
Pasadena, CA 91106
Tel: 626-449-8433
Fax: 626-449-0565
pat@fitzgreenlaw.com

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Divorce Attorneys fees and Bankruptcy

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:39 pm
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Divorce Attorneys fees and Bankruptcy

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:29 pm
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Eric:
Fee awards are (a)(5) debts.
If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me.
Pat
Patrick T. Green
Attorney at Law
Fitzgerald & Green
1010 E. Union St. Ste. 206
Pasadena, CA 91106
Tel: 626-449-8433
Fax: 626-449-0565
pat@fitzgreenlaw.com

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Divorce Attorneys fees and Bankruptcy

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:25 pm
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Renay:
Fees are typically awarded in a disso action in CA because the payor has
more income than the payee, which means they are in the nature of support,
i.e., a DSO and therefore not dischargeable. For divorce attorneys, this
means that their own client can discharge the fees owed to them, but fees
owed to the atty by the opposing party are typically not dischargeable.
If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me.
Pat
Patrick T. Green
Attorney at Law
Fitzgerald & Green
1010 E. Union St. Ste. 206
Pasadena, CA 91106
Tel: 626-449-8433
Fax: 626-449-0565
pat@fitzgreenlaw.com

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Divorce Attorneys fees and Bankruptcy

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:21 pm
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The only possible twist is that 523(a)(15) makes non-dischargeable debts owed by a debtor to a spouse, former spouse or child. Often, family law courts award attorney fees by making them directly payable to counsel, which may create an issue in that, technically, it would not be a debt owed to a spouse, former spouse or child.
Law Office of Eric Alan Mitnick
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Sent: Thu, Oct 4, 2012 12:14 pm
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Divorce Attorneys fees and Bankruptcy
I see no reason why it would be otherwise.
Jay
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM, R Grace Rodriguez wrote:
Hello Fellow Members:
My read of the lay of the land is that if your client is ordered to pay his/her spouse's attorney it will be non-dischargeable under Section 523. But if the order is for each side to pay their own attorneys fees, it could be dischargeable. Anyone have experience with this?
Best regards,
R. Grace Rodriguez, Esq.
818-734-7223 ~ c. 818-554-9922
p.s. Please forgive the brevity of this message as I am responding on a cell phone or tablet which is much more difficult to type upon. But my desire to get a response to you quickly is an overiding factor. Thank you for your understanding.
The only possible twist is that 523(a)(15) makes non-dischargeable debts owed by a debtor to a spouse, former spouse or child. Often, family law courts award attorney fees by making them directly payable to counsel, which may create an issue in that, technically, it would not be a debt owed to a spouse, former spouse or child.
Law Office of Eric Alan Mitnick
21515 Hawthorne Boulevard, Ste. 1080
Torrance, California 90503
(310) 792-5864; 792-5866 (fax)
MitnickLaw@aol.com

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I see no reason why it would be otherwise.
Jay
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM, R Grace Rodriguez <rgracelaw@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Fellow Members:
My read of the lay of the land is that if your client is ordered to pay his/her spouse's attorney it will be non-dischargeable under Section 523. But if the order is for each side to pay their own attorneys fees, it could be dischargeable. Anyone have experience with this?
Best regards,
R. Grace Rodriguez, Esq.
818-734-7223 ~ c. 818-554-9922
p.s. Please forgive the brevity of this message as I am responding on a cell phone or tablet which is much more difficult to type upon. But my desire to get a response to you quickly is an overiding factor. Thank you for your understanding.
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Divorce Attorneys fees and Bankruptcy

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:14 pm
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I see no reason why it would be otherwise.
Jay
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM, R Grace Rodriguez wrote:
> **
>
>
> Hello Fellow Members:
>
> My read of the lay of the land is that if your client is ordered to pay
> his/her spouse's attorney it will be non-dischargeable under Section 523.
> But if the order is for each side to pay their own attorneys fees, it could
> be dischargeable. Anyone have experience with this?
>
> Best regards,
> R. Grace Rodriguez, Esq.
> 818-734-7223 ~ c. 818-554-9922
>
> p.s. Please forgive the brevity of this message as I am responding on a
> cell phone or tablet which is much more difficult to type upon. But my
> desire to get a response to you quickly is an overiding factor. Thank you
> for your understanding.
>
>
>
I see no reason why it would be otherwise.JayOn Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM, R Grace Rodriguez <rgracelaw@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Fellow Members:
My read of the lay of the land is that if your client is ordered to pay his/her spouse's attorney it will be non-dischargeable under Section 523. But if the order is for each side to pay their own attorneys fees, it could be dischargeable. Anyone have experience with this?
Best regards,
R. Grace Rodriguez, Esq.
818-734-7223 ~ c.
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Divorce Attorneys fees and Bankruptcy

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:38 am
by Yahoo Bot

Hello Fellow Members:
My read of the lay of the land is that if your client is ordered to pay
his/her spouse's attorney it will be non-dischargeable under Section 523.
But if the order is for each side to pay their own attorneys fees, it could
be dischargeable. Anyone have experience with this?
Best regards,
R. Grace Rodriguez, Esq.
818-734-7223 ~ c. 818-554-9922
p.s. Please forgive the brevity of this message as I am responding on a
cell phone or tablet which is much more difficult to type upon. But my
desire to get a response to you quickly is an overiding factor. Thank you
for your understanding.
Hello Fellow Members:
My read of the lay of the land is that if your client is ordered to pay his/her spouse's attorney it will be non-dischargeable under Section 523. But if the order is for each side to pay their own attorneys fees, it could be dischargeable. Anyone have experience with this?
Best regards,
R. Grace Rodriguez, Esq.
818-734-7223 ~ c. 818-554-9922
p.s. Please forgive the brevity of this message as I am responding on a cell phone or tablet which is much more difficult to type upon. But my desire to get a response to you quickly is an overiding factor. Thank you for your understanding.

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