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522(*), the other hanging paragraph

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:39 am
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Thanks Michael
Searchingthe cite to for West, I found one that is on point with my debtor's facts (except a different opt-out state with residency requirements is involved):
3702734 (Bankr.W.D.Tex.2006) (because debtor was not
resident of Florida on date of filing, debtor could not claim
Floridas exemptions, but Floridas opt-out, which was limited to
residents, did not bar debtor from claiming federal
exemptions);
Presumably 9th Circuit follows this logic.
Peter
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On Friday, March 21, 2014 5:40 PM, Michael Avanesian wrote:
My standard disclaimer: I have no consumer bk experience. Please research.
If 522(b)(3)(A) makes it so that Debtor is noteligiblefor an exemption, then 522(b)(3)(*) means they have to use 522(d).
Lots of cases like this involving Florida like In re Adams 375 b.r. 532 and In re West 352 br 905. These cases combined do a good job of laying it out.
Sincerely,
Michael Avanesian
Law Offices of David A. Tilem
http://www.tilemlaw.com/
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On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Peter M. Lively wrote:
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>Thanks, but those resources don't address the issue.
>
>
>Does the bankruptcy code trump the state's restriction regarding residency? Or does522(*) require use of522(d) on those facts?>
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>On Friday, March 21, 2014 1:38 PM, Mark J. Markus wrote:
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>If I'm understanding your question correctly, see http://www.exemptionsexpress.com/Alabam ... souri.html as I think that will provide the answer.
>
>It's an issue of extraterritoriality (I just wanted to see how
fast I could type that word).
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On 3/21/2014 12:57 PM, Peter M. Lively wrote:
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>Debtor has not resided inCalifornia for the past 730 days andState X(an opt out state where he lived for the majority of the prior 180 days) has exemptions that are expresslyonly for residents of that state.
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>>Does 552(*)allow thedebtoruse State X's exemptions>>
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>>Is anyone aware of 9th Circuit authority on this issue?
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>>Peter M. Lively, J.D., M.B.A.
>>Law Office of Peter M. Lively * Personal Financial Law Center I
>>11268 Washington Boulevard, Suite 203, Culver City,
California 90230-4647
>>Telephone: (310) 391-2400* Toll Free: (800) 307-3328 * Fax: (310) 391-2462
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522(*), the other hanging paragraph

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:40 pm
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My standard disclaimer: I have no consumer bk experience. Please research.
If 522(b)(3)(A) makes it so that Debtor is not eligible for an exemption,
then 522(b)(3)(*) means they have to use 522(d).
Lots of cases like this involving Florida like In re Adams 375 b.r. 532 and
In re West 352 br 905. These cases combined do a good job of laying it out.
Sincerely,
Michael Avanesian
Law Offices of David A. Tilem
www.tilemlaw.com
818-507-6000
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Peter M. Lively wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, but those resources don't address the issue.
>
> Does the bankruptcy code trump the state's restriction regarding
> residency? Or does 522(*) require use of 522(d) on those facts?
>
>
> Peter M. Lively, J.D., M.B.A.
> Law Office of Peter M. Lively * Personal Financial Law Center I
> 11268 Washington Boulevard, Suite 203, Culver City, California 90230-4647
> Telephone: (310) 391-2400 * Toll Free: (800) 307-3328 * Fax: (310)
> 391-2462
>
>
> On Friday, March 21, 2014 1:38 PM, Mark J. Markus
> wrote:
>
> If I'm understanding your question correctly, see
> http://www.exemptionsexpress.com/Alabam ... souri.html as I think
> that will provide the answer.
>
> It's an issue of extraterritoriality (I just wanted to see how fast I
> could type that word).
>
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> Studio City, CA 91604-2652
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> On 3/21/2014 12:57 PM, Peter M. Lively wrote:
>
> Debtor has not resided in California for the past 730 days and State
> X (an opt out state where he lived for the majority of the prior 180 days)
> has exemptions that are expressly only for residents of that state.
>
> Does 552(*) allow the debtor use State X's exemptions or is he required
> to use 522(d)?
>
> Is anyone aware of 9th Circuit authority on this issue?
>
>
> Peter M. Lively, J.D., M.B.A.
> Law Office of Peter M. Lively * Personal Financial Law Center I
> 11268 Washington Boulevard, Suite 203, Culver City, California 90230-4647
> Telephone: (310) 391-2400 * Toll Free: (800) 307-3328 * Fax: (310)
> 391-2462
>
>
>
>
>
>
My standard disclaimer: I have no consumer bk experience. Please research.If 522(b)(3)(A) makes it so that Debtor is not eligible for an exemption, then 522(b)(3)(*) means they have to use 522(d).
Lots of cases like this involving Florida like In re Adams 375 b.r. 532 and In re West 352 br 905. These cases combined do a good job of laying it out.
Sincerely, Michael AvanesianLaw Offices of David A. Tilemwww.tilemlaw.com
818-507-6000
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Peter M. Lively <petermlively2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

Thanks, but those resources don't address the issue. Does the bankruptcy code trump the state's restriction regarding residency? Or does 522(*) require use of 522(d) on those facts?

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522(*), the other hanging paragraph

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:37 pm
by Yahoo Bot

Thanks, but those resources don't address the issue.
Does the bankruptcy code trump the state's restriction regarding residency?
Law Office of Peter M. Lively * Personal Financial Law Center I
11268 Washington Boulevard, Suite 203, Culver City, California 90230-4647
Telephone: (310) 391-2400* Toll Free: (800) 307-3328 * Fax: (310) 391-2462
On Friday, March 21, 2014 1:38 PM, Mark J. Markus wrote:
If I'm understanding your question correctly, see http://www.exemptionsexpress.com/Alabam ... souri.html as I think that will provide the answer.
It's an issue of extraterritoriality (I just wanted to see how
fast I could type that word).
*************************
Mark J. Markus
Law Office of Mark J. Markus
Mailing Address Only:
11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
Studio City, CA 91604-2652
(818)509-1173 (818)509-1460 (fax)
web: http://www.bklaw.com/
Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of
California Board of Legal Specialization
This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency
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On 3/21/2014 12:57 PM, Peter M. Lively wrote:
Debtor has not resided inCalifornia for the past 730 days andState X(an opt out state where he lived for the majority of the prior 180 days) has exemptions that are expresslyonly for residents of that state.
>
>
>Does 552(*)allow thedebtoruse State X's exemptionsoris he required to use 522(d)?
>
>
>Is anyone aware of 9th Circuit authority on this issue?
>
>
>
>Peter M. Lively, J.D., M.B.A.
>Law Office of Peter M. Lively * Personal Financial Law Center I
>11268 Washington Boulevard, Suite 203, Culver City,
California 90230-4647
>Telephone: (310) 391-2400* Toll Free: (800) 307-3328 *
Fax: (310) 391-2462

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522(*), the other hanging paragraph

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:30 pm
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Dear Peter,
Please take a look at my blog post on the subject from a couple of years ago. It's at http://www.southerncaliforniabankruptcy ... ankruptcy/.
All the best,
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522(*), the other hanging paragraph

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:57 pm
by Yahoo Bot

Debtor has not resided inCalifornia for the past 730 days andState X has exemptions that are expresslyonly for residents of that state.
Does 552(*)allow thedebtoruse State X's exemptionsoris he required to use 522(d)?
Is anyone aware of 9th Circuit authority on this issue?
Law Office of Peter M. Lively * Personal Financial Law Center I
11268 Washington Boulevard, Suite 203, Culver City, California 90230-4647
Telephone: (310) 391-2400* Toll Free: (800) 307-3328 * Fax: (310) 391-2462

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