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Disregarding 506 order in Ch 13

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:29 pm
by Yahoo Bot

Is there any reason why dismissing the case is not a good idea?
Sincerely,
Michael Avanesian
Law Offices of David A. Tilem
www.tilemlaw.com
818-507-6000
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 12:04 PM, cliff@bordeauxlaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> PS: FRBP 9024 and FRCP 60 provide that the court may relieve a party of
> from an order for a variety of stated reasons, or for "any other reason
> that justifies relief." Seems like debtors desire to pay 100% to Class 5
> and restore junior lienholder's lien would justify relief--debtor is
> providing creditors with more than they would get per the terms of the
> confirmed plan.
>
>
Is there any reason why dismissing the case is not a good idea?Sincerely, Michael AvanesianLaw Offices of David A. Tilem
www.tilemlaw.com818-507-6000
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 12:04 PM, cliff@bordeauxlaw.com [cdcbaa] <cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
PS: FRBP 9024 and FRCP 60 provide that the court may relieve a party of from an order for a variety of stated reasons, or for "any other reason that justifies relief." Seems like debtors desire to pay 100% to Class 5 and restore junior lienholder's lien would justify relief--debtor is providing creditors with more than they would get per the terms of the confirmed plan.

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Disregarding 506 order in Ch 13

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:45 pm
by Yahoo Bot

Bert,
The Order granting lien avoidance specifically permits it be paid through
the plan as a general unsecured.
The plan confirmation order also sets forth terms.
If the junior gets paid the same 100% as the other general unsecureds then
there is no point in modifying the plan.
My opinion: The trustee won't allow it based upon the orders avoiding lien
and confirming plan.
The junior lien must not be treated any differently than the remainder of
the unsecured creditors.
Christine
Christine A. Wilton,
Esq.
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Wilton
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Bert Briones bertbri@ymail.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> I have a chapter 13 debtor who wants to modify the confirmed plan in the
> following way:
>
> a. Begin to pay an avoided HELOC directly to the lender.
> b. Modify the plan to make it 100% to GUCs
>
> This is happening in the aftermath of a successful loan modification.
> However, with the reduced loan payment the plan increase would be
> substantial. Plan payment now is $3000 would be close to $4000
> post-modification. The plan was intended to cure six-figure arrears, but
> now that is unnecessary. Other unsecured debt is nil and Priority Taxes
> are about $25,000.
>
> So I see the possibility of just dismissing the case or trying to modify
> the plan to allow direct payments. the plan payment would drop to about
> $800 (with 100% to GUCS) and to this self-employed debtor that would be
> useful. On the otherhand, dismissing the case would just require them to
> make direct arrangements with the IRS and save on trustee fees.
>
> Anyone faced this situation before?
>
> Can a motion to avoid be disregarding via a plan modification? Or would
> it need to be revolked?
>
>
>
Bert,The Order granting lien avoidance specifically permits it be paid through the plan as a general unsecured.The plan confirmation order also sets forth terms.
If the junior gets paid the same 100% as the other general unsecureds then there is no point in modifying the plan.My opinion:nd confirming plan.
The junior lien must not be treated any differently than the remainder of the unsecured creditors.ChristineChristine A. Wilton, Esq.Law Office of Christine A. Wilton649Office: 714-533-9210Fax: 714-489-8150
Email: attorneychristine@gmail.comBlog: www.losangelesbankruptcylawmonitor.com
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Bert Briones bertbri@ymail.com [cdcbaa] <cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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Disregarding 506 order in Ch 13

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:38 pm
by Yahoo Bot

I have a chapter 13 debtor who wants to modify the confirmed plan in the following way:
a. Begin to pay an avoided HELOC directly to the lender.
b. Modify the plan to make it 100% to GUCs
This is happening in the aftermath of a successful loan modification. However, with the reduced loan payment the plan increase would be substantial. Plan payment now is $3000 would be close to $4000 post-modification.essary. Other unsecured debt is nil and Priority Taxes are about $25,000.
So I see the possibility of just dismissing the case or trying to modify the planto allow direct payments. the plan payment would drop to about $800 (with 100% to GUCS)and to this self-employed debtor that would be useful. On the otherhand, dismissing the case would just require them to make direct arrangements with the IRS and save on trustee fees.
Anyone faced this situation before?
Can a motion to avoid be disregarding via a plan modification? Or would it need to be revolked?

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