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Stay of UD Action in Bankruptcy Questions

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:11 am
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The UD action is against the former owner of the property who currently
resides on the property and rents rooms to tenants. There is no current UD
judgment.
It is the tenant who seeks to file bankruptcy to stop the UD action from
proceeding and there are other issues that would warrant the UD continuing,
but that is not relevant for this question.
So, we have no judgment for possession and we have a lessee who has not
filed a preliminary claim of right of possession and who is listed as a
"Doe" on the UD action because they likely did not know about the room
renting situation at the time the UD action was filed.
I am now back in Margaret's camp that this tenant is not a party to the UD
action though she may "occupy" or "live" in the house, but it doesn't seem
that filing a bankruptcy case for her would stop this UD action.
Thanks again for the insights and input.
Christine
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Mark T. Jessee wrote:
> In Re Tiffany Butler is old law. BAPCPA includes Section 362(b)(22) which
> negates the holding in Butler.
>
>
>
> Mark T. Jessee
> Law Offices of Mark T. Jessee
> "A Debt Relief Agency"
> 50 W. Hillcrest Drive, Suite 200
> Thousand Oaks, CA 91360
> (805) 497-5868 (805) 497-5864 (Facsimile)
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:24:35 -0800, Christine Wilton attorneychristine@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ******
> [Attachment(s)from Christine Wilton included below]
>
> I just found In re Butler, which shows that the Stay does apply. I'll be
> filing the case.
>
> Thanks for the input.
>
> Christine Wilton
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Margaret Norman > wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Without filing a preliminary claim of right of possession, the tenant's
>> name would not be involved in the UD action. I don't see how the Bk stay
>> would stall the eviction in that case. Does your client want to add their
>> name to an eviction? They will have to move eventually and many owners of
>> property may rent to someone with a bk but not anybody involved in an
>> eviction. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Margaret Norman, Attny****
>>
>> 111 N. Sepulveda Blvd. #355****
>>
>> Manhattan Beach, Ca. 90266****
>>
>> 310-376-7873 ****
>>
>> Fax 310-798-0846 ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
>> cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com ] *On
>> Behalf Of *Christine Wilton
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:58 AM
>> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* [cdcbaa] Stay of UD Action in Bankruptcy Questions****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Hello Colleagues:
>>
>> I have a pc who is a tenant occupying a property where the owner is
>> defending a UD action. I understand the tenant has NOT filled out a
>> preliminary claim of right of possession to the property and may not be a
>> part of the UD action, though the action states "all occupants."
>>
>> Would a bankruptcy filing for the tenant, stay the UD action?
>>
>>
>> I need your thoughts and input on this please.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Christine A. Wilton
>> Law Office of Christine A. Wilton
>> 4067 Hardwick Street, Suite 335
>> Lakewood, CA 90712
>> Office: 877-631-2220
>> Cell: 562-824-7563
>> Fax: 1-636-212-7078
>> Email: attorneychristine@gmail.com
>> Web: www.attorneychristine.com
>> Blog: www.losangelesbankruptcylawmonitor.com
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> Lakewood, CA 90712
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Christine A. Wilton
Law Office of Christine A. Wilton
4067 Hardwick Street, Suite 335
Lakewood, CA 90712
Office: 877-631-2220
Cell: 562-824-7563
Fax: 1-636-212-7078
Email: attorneychristine@gmail.com
Web: www.attorneychristine.com
Blog: www.losangelesbankruptcylawmonitor.com
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The UD action is against the former owner of the property who currently resides on the property and rents rooms to tenants. There is no current UD judgment.It is the tenant who seeks to file bankruptcy to stop the UD action from proceeding and there are other issues that would warrant the UD continuing, but that is not relevant for this question.
So, we have no judgment for possession and we have a lessee who has not filed a preliminary claim of right of possession and who is listed as a "Doe" on the UD action because they likely did not know about the room renting situation at the time the UD action was filed.
I am now back in Margaret's camp that this tenant is not a party to the UD action though she may "occupy" or "live" in the house, but it doesn't seem that filing a bankruptcy case for her would stop this UD action.
Thanks again for the insights and input.ChristineOn Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Mark T. Jessee <mjessee@jesseelaw.com> wrote:
In Re Tiffany Butler is old law.
BAPCPA includes Section 362(b)(22) which negates the holding in Butler.
Mark T. JesseeLaw Offices of Mark T. Jessee"A Debt Relief
Agency"50 W. Hillcrest Drive, Suite 200Thousand Oaks, CA 91360(805)
497-5868 (805) 497-5864 (Facsimile)On Tue, 24 Jan 2012
18:24:35 -0800, Christine Wilton <attorneychristine@gmail.com>
wrote:
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In Re Tiffany Butler is old law. BAPCPA includes Section 362(b)(22)
which negates the holding in Butler.
Mark T. Jessee
Law Offices of Mark T. Jessee
"A Debt Relief Agency"
50 W. Hillcrest Drive, Suite 200
Thousand Oaks, CA 91360
(805) 497-5868 (805) 497-5864 (Facsimile)
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:24:35 -0800, Christine Wilton wrote:
[Attachment(s) from Christine Wilton included below] I
just found In re Butler, which shows that the Stay does apply. I'll be
filing the case.
Thanks for the input.
Christine Wilton
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Margaret Norman wrote:
Without filing a preliminary claim of right of possession, the
tenant's name would not be involved in the UD action. I don't see how
the Bk stay would stall the eviction in that case. Does your client
want to add their name to an eviction? They will have to move
eventually and many owners of property may rent to someone with a bk
but not anybody involved in an eviction.
Margaret Norman, Attny
111 N. Sepulveda Blvd. #355
Manhattan Beach, Ca. 90266
310-376-7873
Fax 310-798-0846
Behalf Of Christine Wilton
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:58 AM
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cdcbaa] Stay of UD Action in Bankruptcy Questions
Hello Colleagues:
I have a pc who is a tenant occupying a property where the owner is
defending a UD action. I understand the tenant has NOT filled out a
preliminary claim of right of possession to the property and may not be
a part of the UD action, though the action states "all occupants."
Would a bankruptcy filing for the tenant, stay the UD action?
I need your thoughts and input on this please.
Thanks,
Christine A. Wilton
Law Office of Christine A. Wilton
4067 Hardwick Street, Suite 335
Lakewood, CA 90712
Office: 877-631-2220
Cell: 562-824-7563
Fax: 1-636-212-7078
Email: attorneychristine@gmail.com
Web: www.attorneychristine.com
Blog: www.losangelesbankruptcylawmonitor.com
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Law Office of Christine A. Wilton
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Lakewood, CA 90712
Office: 877-631-2220
Cell: 562-824-7563
Fax: 1-636-212-7078
Email: attorneychristine@gmail.com
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Blog: www.losangelesbankruptcylawmonitor.com
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p{margin: 0;padding: 0;}In Re Tiffany Butler is old law.
BAPCPA includes Section 362(b)(22) which negates the holding in Butler.
Mark T. JesseeLaw Offices of Mark T. Jessee"A Debt Relief
Agency"50 W. Hillcrest Drive, Suite 200Thousand Oaks, CA 91360(805)
497-5868 (805) 497-5864 (Facsimile)On Tue, 24 Jan 2012
18:24:35 -0800, Christine Wilton <attorneychristine@gmail.com>
wrote:

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Stay of UD Action in Bankruptcy Questions

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:24 pm
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I just found In re Butler, which shows that the Stay does apply. I'll be
filing the case.
Thanks for the input.
Christine Wilton
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Margaret Norman wrote:
> **
>
>
> Without filing a preliminary claim of right of possession, the tenant's
> name would not be involved in the UD action. I don't see how the Bk stay
> would stall the eviction in that case. Does your client want to add their
> name to an eviction? They will have to move eventually and many owners of
> property may rent to someone with a bk but not anybody involved in an
> eviction. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Margaret Norman, Attny****
>
> 111 N. Sepulveda Blvd. #355****
>
> Manhattan Beach, Ca. 90266****
>
> 310-376-7873****
>
> Fax 310-798-0846****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf
> Of *Christine Wilton
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:58 AM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [cdcbaa] Stay of UD Action in Bankruptcy Questions****
>
> ** **
>
> ****
>
> Hello Colleagues:
>
> I have a pc who is a tenant occupying a property where the owner is
> defending a UD action. I understand the tenant has NOT filled out a
> preliminary claim of right of possession to the property and may not be a
> part of the UD action, though the action states "all occupants."
>
> Would a bankruptcy filing for the tenant, stay the UD action?
>
>
> I need your thoughts and input on this please.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Christine A. Wilton
> Law Office of Christine A. Wilton
> 4067 Hardwick Street, Suite 335
> Lakewood, CA 90712
> Office: 877-631-2220
> Cell: 562-824-7563
> Fax: 1-636-212-7078
> Email: attorneychristine@gmail.com
> Web: www.attorneychristine.com
> Blog: www.losangelesbankruptcylawmonitor.com
> ***************************
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Christine A. Wilton
Law Office of Christine A. Wilton
4067 Hardwick Street, Suite 335
Lakewood, CA 90712
Office: 877-631-2220
Cell: 562-824-7563
Fax: 1-636-212-7078
Email: attorneychristine@gmail.com
Web: www.attorneychristine.com
Blog: www.losangelesbankruptcylawmonitor.com
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I just found In re Butler, which shows that the Stay does apply. I'll be filing the case.Thanks for the input.Christine WiltonOn Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Margaret Norman <marge@margeslaw.com> wrote:
Without filing a preliminary claim of right of possession, the
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Stay of UD Action in Bankruptcy Questions

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:13 am
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Without filing a preliminary claim of right of possession, the tenant's name would not be involved in the UD action. I don't see how the Bk stay would stall the eviction in that case. Does your client want to add their name to an eviction? They will have to move eventually and many owners of property may rent to someone with a bk but not anybody involved in an eviction.
Margaret Norman, Attny
111 N. Sepulveda Blvd. #355
Manhattan Beach, Ca. 90266
310-376-7873
Fax 310-798-0846

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Stay of UD Action in Bankruptcy Questions

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Hello Colleagues:
I have a pc who is a tenant occupying a property where the owner is
defending a UD action. I understand the tenant has NOT filled out a
preliminary claim of right of possession to the property and may not be a
part of the UD action, though the action states "all occupants."
Would a bankruptcy filing for the tenant, stay the UD action?
I need your thoughts and input on this please.
Thanks,
Christine A. Wilton
Law Office of Christine A. Wilton
4067 Hardwick Street, Suite 335
Lakewood, CA 90712
Office: 877-631-2220
Cell: 562-824-7563
Fax: 1-636-212-7078
Email: attorneychristine@gmail.com
Web: www.attorneychristine.com
Blog: www.losangelesbankruptcylawmonitor.com
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Hello Colleagues:I have a pc who is a tenant occupying a property where the owner is defending a UD action. I understand the tenant has NOT filled out a preliminary claim of right of possession to the property and may not be a part of the UD action, though the action states "all occupants."
Would a bankruptcy filing for the tenant, stay the UD action?I need your thoughts and input on this please.Thanks,-- Christine A. WiltonLaw Office of Christine A. Wilton
4067 Hardwick Street, Suite 335Lakewood, CA 90712Office: 877-631-2220 Cell: 562-824-7563Fax: 1-636-212-7078Email: attorneychristine@gmail.com
Web: www.attorneychristine.comBlog: www.losangelesbankruptcylawmonitor.com
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