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Oops, vk should say sk. Confused my k judges.
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On Jul 14, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Giovanni Orantes wrote:
> Not currently part of her gig. 13s in L.A. only handled by wb, nb, vz and vk at this time and likely for a long time. All, except vz, are quite recently-minted.
Oops, vk should say sk. Confused my k judges.Sent from my iPadOn Jul 14, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Giovanni Orantes <go@gobklaw.com> wrote:Not currently part of her gig. 13s in L.A. only handled by wb, nb, vz and vk at this time and likely for a long time. All, except vz, are quite recently-minted.

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Ahh, that's right. Thanks
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On Jul 14, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Giovanni Orantes wrote:
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Ahh, that's right. ThanksSent from my iPhone 4sOn Jul 14, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Giovanni Orantes <go@gobklaw.com> wrote:

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Yes it goes back to the same judge unless they don't handle 13s
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On Jul 14, 2012, at 4:25 PM, "Link W. Schrader" wrote:
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> Makes sense, but would the newly filed chapter 7 automatically go back to the same judge that did the 13? How would you know the judge until after you filed?
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> Link Schrader, Attorney
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Mark J. Markus
> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 1:43 PM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Judge Bluebond, Lien Stripping and Ch. 20
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> I agree, but it matters to the client prior to hiring me whether they're likely to have smooth sailing, or have to pay several thousand additional dollars afterwards for an appeal that they may or may not prevail on.
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> *************************
> Mark J. Markus
> Law Office of Mark J. Markus
> 11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
> Studio City, CA 91604-2652
> (818)509-1173 (818)509-1460 (fax)
> web: http://www.bklaw.com/
> Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization
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> This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency (see what this means at http://www.bklaw.com/bankruptcy-blog/20 ... efinition/)
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> On 7/14/2012 12:53 PM, Link W. Schrader wrote:
> This question is asked often about a particular jurist. I would like to see someone care less about a particular judge's prior ruling and instead appeal a decision to the BAP if believed to be wrong? Of course that risks the BAP or a higher court ruling that a chapter 20 is never allowed.
>
> This issue seems less procedural (ie motion or adversary) than one of substantive fairness. The outcome should not depend on the luck of the draw.
>
> Link W. Schrader, Attorney
> lschrader@schrader-law.com
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> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat Jul 14 14:38:17 2012
> Subject: [cdcbaa] Judge Bluebond, Lien Stripping and Ch. 20
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> Does anyone know if Judge Bluebond follows the majority in not allowing LAM-type lien strips in a Chapter 13 filed right after a Chapter 7 discharge?
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> *************************
> Mark J. Markus
> Law Office of Mark J. Markus
> 11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
> Studio City, CA 91604-2652
> (818)509-1173 (818)509-1460 (fax)
> web: http://www.bklaw.com/
> Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization
>
> This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency (see what this means at http://www.bklaw.com/bankruptcy-blog/20 ... efinition/)
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> Law Office of Mark J. Markus
> 11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
> Studio City, CA 91604-2652
> (818)509-1173 (818)509-1460 (fax)
> web: http://www.bklaw.com/
> Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization
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Yes it goes back to the same judge unless they don't handle 13s Sent from my iPhone 4sOn Jul 14, 2012, at 4:25 PM, "Link W. Schrader" <
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Not currently part of her gig. 13s in L.A. only handled by wb, nb, vz and
vk at this time and likely for a long time. All, except vz, are quite
recently-minted.
Not currently part of her gig. 13s in L.A. only handled by wb, nb, vz and vk at this time and likely for a long time. All, except vz, are quite recently-minted.

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Why not?
Kenneth Jay Schwartz, Esq.
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Sent: Sat, July 14, 2012 5:39:39 PM
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Judge Bluebond, Lien Stripping and Ch. 20
She wouldn't preside over a 13.
On Jul 14, 2012 1:42 PM, "Mark J. Markus" wrote:
I agree, but it matters to the client prior to hiring me whether they're
likely to have smooth sailing, or have to pay several thousand additional dollars afterwards for an appeal that they may or may not
prevail on.
>
>
>*************************
>Mark J. Markus
>Law Office of Mark J. Markus
>11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
>Studio City, CA 91604-2652
>(818)509-1173 (818)509-1460 (fax)
>web: http://www.bklaw.com/
>Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California Board
>of Legal Specialization
>
>This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency (see what this
>means at

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She wouldn't preside over a 13.
On Jul 14, 2012 1:42 PM, "Mark J. Markus" wrote:
> I agree, but it matters to the client prior to hiring me whether they're
> likely to have smooth sailing, or have to pay several thousand additional
> dollars afterwards for an appeal that they may or may not prevail on.
>
> *************************
> Mark J. Markus
> Law Office of Mark J. Markus
> 11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
> Studio City, CA 91604-2652
> (818)509-1173 (818)509-1460 (fax)
> web: http://www.bklaw.com/
> Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California Board of
> Legal Specialization
>
> This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency (see what this means
> at
> http://www.bklaw.com/bankruptcy-blog/20 ... efinition/
> )
> ________________________________________________
> NOTICE: This Electronic Message contains information from the law office
> of Mark J. Markus that may be privileged. The information is intended for
> the use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any
> disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is
> prohibited.
> IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by
> the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. tax advice contained in this
> communication (or in any attachment) is not intended or written to be used,
> and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding penalties under the
> Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to
> another party any transaction or matter addressed in this communication.
> On 7/14/2012 12:53 PM, Link W. Schrader wrote:
>
> This question is asked often about a particular jurist. I would like to
> see someone care less about a particular judge's prior ruling and instead
> appeal a decision to the BAP if believed to be wrong? Of course that risks
> the BAP or a higher court ruling that a chapter 20 is never allowed.
>
> This issue seems less procedural (ie motion or adversary) than one of
> substantive fairness. The outcome should not depend on the luck of the draw.
>
> Link W. Schrader, Attorney
> lschrader@schrader-law.com
> Mail: PO Box 3723, Tustin, CA 92781
> Office: 106 W 4th St, #308, Santa Ana, CA 92701
>
> Orange County: (714) 542-5922
> Los Angeles: (310) 413-6924 *
> San Diego: (619) 952-8342
> Facsimile: (310) 878-4158
> * Texts received at LA number only
>
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> *From*: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *To*: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent*: Sat Jul 14 14:38:17 2012
> *Subject*: [cdcbaa] Judge Bluebond, Lien Stripping and Ch. 20
>
> Does anyone know if Judge Bluebond follows the majority in not allowing
> LAM-type lien strips in a Chapter 13 filed right after a Chapter 7
> discharge?
>
> *************************
> Mark J. Markus
> Law Office of Mark J. Markus
> 11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
> Studio City, CA 91604-2652
> (818)509-1173 (818)509-1460 (fax)
> web: http://www.bklaw.com/
> Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California Board of
> Legal Specialization
>
> This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency (see what this means
> at
> http://www.bklaw.com/bankruptcy-blog/20 ... efinition/
> )
> ________________________________________________
> NOTICE: This Electronic Message contains information from the law office
> of Mark J. Markus that may be privileged. The information is intended for
> the use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any
> disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is
> prohibited.
> IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by
> the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. tax advice contained in this
> communication (or in any attachment) is not intended or written to be used,
> and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding penalties under the
> Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to
> another party any transaction or matter addressed in this communication.
> ** **
>
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>
> Does anyone know if Judge Bluebond follows the majority in not allowing
> LAM-type lien strips in a Chapter 13 filed right after a Chapter 7
> discharge?
>
> *************************
> Mark J. Markus
> Law Office of Mark J. Markus
> 11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
> Studio City, CA 91604-2652
> (818)509-1173 (818)509-1460 (fax)
> web: http://www.bklaw.com/
> Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California Board of
> Legal Specialization
>
> This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency (see what this means
> at
> http://www.bklaw.com/bankruptcy-blog/20 ... efinition/
> )
> ________________________________________________
> NOTICE: This Electronic Message contains information from the law office
> of Mark J. Markus that may be privileged. The information is intended for
> the use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any
> disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is
> prohibited.
> IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by
> the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. tax advice contained in this
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> and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding penalties under the
> Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to
> another party any transaction or matter addressed in this communication.
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She wouldn't preside over a 13.
On Jul 14, 2012 1:42 PM, "Mark J. Markus" <bklawr@yahoo.com> wrote:

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The newly filed 13 will go back to Judge Kaufman, since she was the 7 judge, and
hears 13 cases. I know that Judge Tighe has loosened up regarding Chapter"20"s, but I am unsure as to Judge Kaufman
Kenneth Jay Schwartz, Esq.
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To: "cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Sat, July 14, 2012 4:24:41 PM
Subject: RE: [cdcbaa] Judge Bluebond, Lien Stripping and Ch. 20
Makes sense, but would the newly filed chapter 7 automatically go back to the
same judge that did the 13? How would you know the judge until after you filed?
Link Schrader, Attorney
From:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark J.
Markus
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 1:43 PM
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Judge Bluebond, Lien Stripping and Ch. 20
I agree, but it matters to the client prior to hiring me whether they're likely
to have smooth sailing, or have to pay several thousand additional dollarsafterwards for an appeal that they may or may not prevail on.
*************************
Mark J. Markus
Law Office of Mark J. Markus
11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
Studio City, CA 91604-2652
(818)509-1173 (818)509-1460 (fax)
web: http://www.bklaw.com/
Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California Board of Legal
Specialization
This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency (see what this means at
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Makes sense, but would the newly filed chapter 7 automatically go back to the same judge that did the 13? How would you know the judge until after you filed?
Link Schrader, Attorney

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Most of us have posed the question, as I did yesterday regarding Judge Kaufman
(by the way, no one responded) because the necessity of the Chapter 13 filing is
imminent, and she was the judge in the Chapter 7 case.
Kenneth Jay Schwartz, Esq.
LAW OFFICE OF KENNETH JAY SCHWARTZ
21031 Ventura Boulevard, Suite 640
Woodland Hills, California 91364-2226
Telephone: (818) 226-1205
Facsimile : (818) 226-1213
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________________________________
To: "cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Sat, July 14, 2012 12:54:05 PM
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Judge Bluebond, Lien Stripping and Ch. 20
This question is asked often about a particular jurist. I would like to see
someone care less about a particular judge's prior ruling and instead appeal a
decision to the BAP if believed to be wrong? Of course that risks the BAP or a
higher court ruling that a chapter 20 is never allowed.
This issue seems less procedural (ie motion or adversary) than one of
substantive fairness. The outcome should not depend on the luck of the draw.
Link W. Schrader, Attorney
lschrader@schrader-law.com
Mail: PO Box 3723, Tustin, CA 92781
Office: 106 W 4th St, #308, Santa Ana, CA 92701
Orange County: (714) 542-5922
Los Angeles: (310) 413-6924 *
San Diego: (619) 952-8342
Facsimile: (310) 878-4158
* Texts received at LA number only
________________________________
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat Jul 14 14:38:17 2012
Subject: [cdcbaa] Judge Bluebond, Lien Stripping and Ch. 20
Does anyone know if Judge Bluebond follows the majority in not allowing LAM-type lien strips in a Chapter 13 filed right after a
Chapter 7 discharge?
*************************
Mark J. Markus
Law Office of Mark J. Markus
11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
Studio City, CA 91604-2652
(818)509-1173 (818)509-1460 (fax)
web: http://www.bklaw.com/
Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California Board
of Legal Specialization
This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency (see what this
means at

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I agree, but it matters to the client prior to hiring me whether
they're likely to have smooth sailing, or have to pay several
thousand additional dollars afterwards for an appeal that they may
or may not prevail on.
*************************
Mark J. Markus
Law Office of Mark J. Markus
11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
Studio City, CA 91604-2652
(818)509-1173 (818)509-1460 (fax)
web: http://www.bklaw.com/
Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California
Board of Legal Specialization
This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency (see what this
means at

The post was migrated from Yahoo.