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Does 9006(f) apply to time to respond to amended

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:03 pm
by Yahoo Bot

If I could retract this email I would. I think my analysis is wrong. 9036
does not overwrite 9006(f). I now think 9006 does not apply to FRCP 15
because FRCP 15 provides it's own time (14 days from service). I am sorry
for responding too quickly to something I don't know about.
Sincerely,
Michael Avanesian
Law Offices of David A. Tilem
www.tilemlaw.com
818-507-6000
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Michael Avanesian wrote:
> FRBP 9036 and corresponding local rule overrule 9006(f) as far as it
> applies to FRCP 5(B)(2)(E), at least that's my crude understanding.
>
> Also an unofficial answer from me is that if this is an adversary
> proceeding and you have yet to make an appearance / file papers in the
> adversary, then service on your by electronic means is not proper service.
> I am not sure about this as it is at the outermost limit of my knowledge.
>
> I also highly recommend everyone read 9006(a)(5) and the corresponding
> notes -- talk about mind blown. It's my favorite example of code to show
> non attorneys so they get a taste for some of the craziness that we have to
> put up with. One cousin talks about aliens, the other about the meaning of
> life, I bring up 9006.
>
> Sincerely,
> Michael Avanesian
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Holly Roark hollyroark22@gmail.com
> [cdcbaa] wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> It also applies to electronic service.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 22, 2014, 'Leventhal Law Group, P.C.' law@3yl.com
>> [cdcbaa] wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you were served by mail you get the three days.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan Leventhal, Esq..
>>> Leventhal Law Group, P.C.
>>> 818-347-5800
>>>
>>> NO EX-PARTE NOTICE VIA VOICE MAIL OR EMAIL: I do not accept e-mail
>>> notice for ex parte Applications via voicemail or by email.
>>>
>>> This email and any attachments thereto may contain private,
>>> confidential, and privileged material for the sole use of the intended
>>> recipient. Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any
>>> attachments thereto) by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the
>>> intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and permanently
>>> delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments
>>> thereto.
>>>
>>> Leventhal Law Group, P.C. is a Debt Relief Agency under federal law.
>>>
>>> Note: The Leventhal Law Group, P.C. does not represent you until a
>>> written fee agreement has been signed by you and a representative of the
>>> Leventhal Law Group, P.C. and all fees listed in the agreement have been
>>> paid.
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> Date:07/22/2014 12:29 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>> To: Strictly Bankruptcy Issues ,cdcbaa
>>> Subject: [cdcbaa] Does 9006(f) apply to time to respond to amended
>>> complaint under FRCP 15?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In other words, do I have 14 + 3 days to respond to a timely filed
>>> amended complaint, or just a strict 14 days?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Holly Roark
>>> Certified Bankruptcy Specialist*
>>> *and Sports Lawyer*
>>> holly@roarklawoffices.com **primary email address**
>>> www.roarklawoffices.com
>>> Central District of California
>>> Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney
>>> 1875 Century Park East, Suite 600
>>> Los Angeles, CA 90067
>>> T (310) 553-2600
>>> F (310) 553-2601
>>>
>>> *By State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization
>>>
>>>
>>> **For a quicker response, email me at holly@roarklawoffices.com.
>>> I only use gmail for my listservs, and am likely to miss private emails
>>> directed to my gmail account.**
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Holly Roark
>> Certified Bankruptcy Specialist*
>> *and Sports Lawyer*
>> holly@roarklawoffices.com **primary email address**
>> www.roarklawoffices.com
>> Central District of California
>> Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney
>> 1875 Century Park East, Suite 600
>> Los Angeles, CA 90067
>> T (310) 553-2600
>> F (310) 553-2601
>>
>> *By State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization
>>
>>
>> **For a quicker response, email me at holly@roarklawoffices.com.
>> I only use gmail for my listservs, and am likely to miss private emails
>> directed to my gmail account.**
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
If I could retract this email I would. I think my analysis is wrong. 9036 does not overwrite 9006(f). I now think 9006 does not apply to FRCP 15 because FRCP 15 provides it's own time (14 days from service). I am sorry for responding too quickly to something I don't know about.
Sincerely, Michael AvanesianLaw Offices of David A. Tilem
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Does 9006(f) apply to time to respond to amended

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:25 pm
by Yahoo Bot

FRBP 9036 and corresponding local rule overrule 9006(f) as far as it
applies to FRCP 5(B)(2)(E), at least that's my crude understanding.
Also an unofficial answer from me is that if this is an adversary
proceeding and you have yet to make an appearance / file papers in the
adversary, then service on your by electronic means is not proper service.
I am not sure about this as it is at the outermost limit of my knowledge.
I also highly recommend everyone read 9006(a)(5) and the corresponding
notes -- talk about mind blown. It's my favorite example of code to show
non attorneys so they get a taste for some of the craziness that we have to
put up with. One cousin talks about aliens, the other about the meaning of
life, I bring up 9006.
Sincerely,
Michael Avanesian
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Holly Roark hollyroark22@gmail.com
[cdcbaa] wrote:
>
>
> It also applies to electronic service.
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 22, 2014, 'Leventhal Law Group, P.C.' law@3yl.com
> [cdcbaa] wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> If you were served by mail you get the three days.
>>
>>
>> Jonathan Leventhal, Esq..
>> Leventhal Law Group, P.C.
>> 818-347-5800
>>
>> NO EX-PARTE NOTICE VIA VOICE MAIL OR EMAIL: I do not accept e-mail
>> notice for ex parte Applications via voicemail or by email.
>>
>> This email and any attachments thereto may contain private,
>> confidential, and privileged material for the sole use of the intended
>> recipient. Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any
>> attachments thereto) by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the
>> intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and permanently
>> delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments
>> thereto.
>>
>> Leventhal Law Group, P.C. is a Debt Relief Agency under federal law.
>>
>> Note: The Leventhal Law Group, P.C. does not represent you until a
>> written fee agreement has been signed by you and a representative of the
>> Leventhal Law Group, P.C. and all fees listed in the agreement have been
>> paid.
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> Date:07/22/2014 12:29 PM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: Strictly Bankruptcy Issues ,cdcbaa
>> Subject: [cdcbaa] Does 9006(f) apply to time to respond to amended
>> complaint under FRCP 15?
>>
>>
>>
>> In other words, do I have 14 + 3 days to respond to a timely filed
>> amended complaint, or just a strict 14 days?
>>
>> --
>> Holly Roark
>> Certified Bankruptcy Specialist*
>> *and Sports Lawyer*
>> holly@roarklawoffices.com **primary email address**
>> www.roarklawoffices.com
>> Central District of California
>> Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney
>> 1875 Century Park East, Suite 600
>> Los Angeles, CA 90067
>> T (310) 553-2600
>> F (310) 553-2601
>>
>> *By State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization
>>
>>
>> **For a quicker response, email me at holly@roarklawoffices.com.
>> I only use gmail for my listservs, and am likely to miss private emails
>> directed to my gmail account.**
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Holly Roark
> Certified Bankruptcy Specialist*
> *and Sports Lawyer*
> holly@roarklawoffices.com **primary email address**
> www.roarklawoffices.com
> Central District of California
> Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney
> 1875 Century Park East, Suite 600
> Los Angeles, CA 90067
> T (310) 553-2600
> F (310) 553-2601
>
> *By State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization
>
>
> **For a quicker response, email me at holly@roarklawoffices.com.
> I only use gmail for my listservs, and am likely to miss private emails
> directed to my gmail account.**
>
>
>
>
FRBP 9036 and corresponding local rule overrule 9006(f) as far as it applies to FRCP 5(B)(2)(E), at least that's my crude understanding.Also an unofficial answer from me is that if this is an adversary proceeding and you have yet to make an appearance / file papers in the adversary, then service on your by electronic means is not proper service. I am not sure about this as it is at the outermost limit of my knowledge.
I also highly recommend everyone read 9006(a)(5) and the corresponding notes -- talk about mind blown. It's my favorite example of code to show non attorneys so they get a taste for some of the craziness that we have to put up with. One cousin talks about aliens, the other about the meaning of life, I bring up 9006.
Sincerely, Michael AvanesianOn Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Holly Roark hollyroark22@gmail.com [cdcbaa]
Date:07/22/2014 12:29 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Strictly Bankruptcy Issues ,cdcbaa
Subject: [cdcbaa] Does 9006(f) apply to time to respond to amended complaint under FRCP 15?
In other words, do I have 14 + 3 days to respond to a timely filed amended complaint, or just a strict 14 days?
Holly Roark
Certified Bankruptcy Specialist*
and Sports Lawyer
holly@roarklawoffices.com**primary email address**
www.roarklawoffices.com
Central District of California
Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney
1875 Century Park East, Suite 600
Los Angeles, CA 90067
T
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