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Discharge of Debt to Former Spouse

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:06 pm
by Yahoo Bot

The cases you cited speak very generally about (a)(4), check out this quote
from the 9th Circuit, "we hold that California partners are fiduciaries
within the meaning of 523(a)(4) and that Haller's debt to Ragsdale is
non-dischargeable." Ragsdale v. Haller, 780 F. 2d 794 - Court of Appeals,
9th Circuit 1986
The basis of their holding was that under California law, a business
partnership is a type of trust relationship that fits within (a)(4). If you
cross reference Family Code 721, you see it incorporates the corporation
code section 16404.
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Discharge of Debt to Former Spouse

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:36 am
by Yahoo Bot

I feel like I've had a good run of lucky answers and it's going to come to
an end. This may be it! What about 523(a)(4) fraud/defalcation while acting
in a fiduciary capacity. In California under Fam. Code 721(b), H/W are
fiduciaries. I don't know about Illinois which is probably the law that
will be applied to determine whether a fiduciary duty exists within the
meaning of (a)(4). The (a)(4) standard is very narrow but marriage is very
special so...
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On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:30 AM, sam@southbaybk.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> PC is indebted to ex under a an Illinois divorce judgment, in part, for
> dissipation of marital assets. I have not yet read the exact language of
> the judgment. My reading of the code is that this is a type of debt that
> falls under 523(a)(15) and would therefore be dischargeable only in a
> chapter 13. I am wondering if anyone has experience in discharging such a
> debt - or if anyone thinks that such a judgment could give rise to a
> non-dischargeability action on other grounds.
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I feel like I've had a good run of lucky answers and it's going to come to an end. This may be it! What about 523(a)(4) fraud/defalcation while acting in a fiduciary capacity. In California under Fam. Code 721(b), H/W are fiduciaries. I don't know about Illinois which is probably the law that will be applied to determine whether a fiduciary duty exists within the meaning of (a)(4). The (a)(4) standard is very narrow but marriage is very special so...
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