Stay violation: Continuing collection of domestic
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 11:04 pm
Most of this is my "ideas." I am hoping for them to be helpful but you need
to do research to verify. I worked on a case where Judge Russell entered an
order prohibiting anyone, anywhere in the world from doing X without his
prior permission. The automatic stay is a similar thing: it is a temporary
injunction automatically issued by the Court and without prior notice or
opportunity to object. So a direct reading of the statute would lead one to
conclude that the automatic stay applies to enforcement of the domesticated
judgment.
The problem is that a U.S. court does not have jurisdiction over acts in
another country; I believe this is called the territoriality principle. The
way I see it is that, absent extreme circumstances, the laws of a
particular country apply to conduct in that country. In the IP context,
countries get together and form basic ideas for how they believe IP issues
should be handled, then each country implements their own interpretation of
the agreement and also, to some extent, respects another country's
processes. I.e. if you obtain a registration for trademark in the U.S., it
is much easier to register it in signatory countries without too much
additional effort.
I do not believe there is a treaty/convention specifically for bankruptcy.
For example, if your client owns property in Mexico/Canada, you better have
a lawyer in Mexico/Canada who is knowledgeable about the law in that
country who can help you navigate the waters. You can't file a notice of
stay in the foreign case and expect that judge to follow orders.
All this being said, you have an ace up your sleeve. The person who sued
your client probably has ties in the U.S. Assuming you can get him served
with appropriate paperwork, you should be able to get the U.S. Court to
hold him in contempt and to direct him to stop his collection efforts
abroad. BTW, I believe service by mail is sufficient in the 9th Circuit but
not in the 2nd/3rd so if this is a NY/Delaware case, you need to follow
Hague convention guidelines. I would definitely double check. Good luck!
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On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 6:28 PM, 'Steven B. Lever' sblever@leverlaw.com
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> *Subject:* [cdcbaa] Stay violation: Continuing collection of domestic
> American judgment in Hague country?
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> Creditor gets a breach of contract for non-payment of loan judgment in a
> California Court against an American citizen. American citizen moves to a
> country that is a signatory to the Hague convention. Creditor domesticates
> judgment in such foreign country. American citizen returns to U.S. and
> files a Chapter 7 case. Does the creditor violate the automatic stay if it
> continues to prosecute collection of the domesticated judgment in the
> foreign country under the rationale that what is being prosecuted is the
> domesticated judgment?
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Most of this is my "ideas." I am hoping for them to be helpful but you need to do research to verify. I worked on a case where Judge Russell entered an order prohibiting anyone, anywhere in the world from doing X without his prior permission. The automatic stay is a similar thing: it is a temporary injunction automatically issued by the Court and without prior notice or opportunity to object. So a direct reading of the statute would lead one to conclude that the automatic stay applies to enforcement of the domesticated judgment.The problem is that a U.S. court does not have jurisdiction over acts in another country; I believe this is called the territoriality principle. The way I see it is that, absent extreme circumstances, the laws of a particular country apply to conduct in that country. In the IP context, countries get together and form basic ideas for how they believe IP issues should be handled, then each country implements their own interpretation of the agreement and also, to some extent, respects another country's processes. I.e. if you obtain a registration for trademark in the U.S., it is much easier to register it in signatory countries without too much additional effort.I do not believe there is a treaty/convention specifically for bankruptcy. For example, if your client owns property in Mexico/Canada, you better have a lawyer in Mexico/Canada who is knowledgeable about the law in that country who can help you navigate the waters. You can't file a notice of stay in the foreign case and expect that judge to follow orders.All this being said, you have an ace up your sleeve. The person who sued your client probably has ties in the U.S. Assuming you can get him served with appropriate paperwork, you should be able to get the U.S. Court to hold him in contempt and to direct him to stop his collection efforts abroad. BTW, I believe service by mail is sufficient in the 9th Circuit but not in the 2nd/3rd so if this is a NY/Delaware case, you need to follow Hague convention guidelines. I would definitely double check. Good luck!
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