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Creditor requesting more information than in the petition
Creditors 2nd objective is to find those attorneys that don't know any
better and take their "barking" as legit and get their clients to pay up!
I wonder if the creditors go after the Pro Per Debtors equally as much?
I agree Gerald.
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Creditors 2nd objective is to find those attorneys that don't know any better and take their "barking" as legit and get their clients to pay up!I wonder if the creditors go after the Pro Per Debtors equally as much?
I agree Gerald.On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Gerald McNally <gm@mcesq.com> wrote:
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The objective for the creditors is to fill up your life with
irrelevant trivia and so deprive you of the one irreplaceable
commodity you have.your time. I ignore them also, for that reason.
It's the same reason they fill out clients' heads full of
misinformation.so we have to spend our time re-educating them.
Gerald McNally
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I ignore them too.
On Feb 20, 2012 12:07 PM, "Mark T. Jessee" wrote:
> I received the same letters. In the Chapter 13 context I do not give them
> the time of day. I answered one once in the chapter 7 case context as I
> was anoyed with continuing to receive such drivel from a creditor that
> should know better. I endeavored to enlighten them that any such corporate
> bylaws are utterly irrelevant and superceded by federal law; that the
> information they were entitled to receive was provided in the notice from
> the bankruptcy court; that I represented the debtor not them; and that if
> they cannot keep their records straight to match the debtor to their
> redcords, it was entirley their problem. Of course I warned them of the
> consequences of violating the automatic stay. I'm sure it was an effort
> in futility as these letters are still being sent, but they have not
> violated the automatic stay in any of my cases.
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> On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:03:30 -0800, "John D. Faucher" j.d.faucher@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> Hello listers:
> I occasionally get letters from creditors who have clearly gotten the
> notice of bankruptcy generated by my petition filing, but asking me to
> provide them even more information so, presumably, they don't violate the
> automatic stay. I generally ignore these, believing that the creditor
> probably has more information on these accounts than I do. Do you guys see
> any reason to answer them?
> Here's an example:
>
> This letter serves a request for more information from John D Faucher on
> behalf of
>
> client N**** N****** in regards to their Ch. 7 Bankruptcy. When originally
> listed as a
>
> creditor, Charter Communications received insufficient information from
> the client in
>
> order to properly process the account in accordance with proper bankruptcy
> policy
>
> established within corporate bylaws. In order to properly process the
> account, the
>
> Cash Management branch of Charter Communications needs the client's
> following
>
> information provided, including: the sixteen (16) digit account number(s)
> for all
>
> accounts involved in the bankruptcy proceedings, any and all addresses
> related to
>
> these accounts, the full name(s) to which these accounts belong, as well
> as any and
>
> all social security numbers associated therein.
>
> Please furnish this information to Charter Communication's Cash Management
>
> division in a timely manner, in order to expedite the processing of the
> client's
>
> account(s). Please send information via fax to (616) 975-1107. Otherwise,
> send via
>
> mail to:
>
> Frankly, this sounds like gobbledygook designed to see if they can trip us
> up. They have the SSN, debtor's name, and address from the mailed copy of
> the notice of bankruptcy. "Insufficient information from the client in
> order to properly process the account in accordance with proper bankruptcy
> policy established within corporate bylaws"?! I hope they don't expect
> that those bylaws are any defense against 11 USC 362, nor that sending this
> letter shifts responsibility for abiding by bankruptcy laws from the
> creditor to the debtor.
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I ignore them too.
On Feb 20, 2012 12:07 PM, "Mark T. Jessee" <mjessee@jesseelaw.com> wrote:
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Hello listers:
I occasionally get letters from creditors who have clearly gotten the notice
of bankruptcy generated by my petition filing, but asking me to provide them
even more information so, presumably, they don't violate the automatic stay.
I generally ignore these, believing that the creditor probably has more
information on these accounts than I do. Do you guys see any reason to
answer them?
Here's an example:
This letter serves a request for more information from John D Faucher on
behalf of
client N**** N****** in regards to their Ch. 7 Bankruptcy. When originally
listed as a
creditor, Charter Communications received insufficient information from the
client in
order to properly process the account in accordance with proper bankruptcy
policy
established within corporate bylaws. In order to properly process the
account, the
Cash Management branch of Charter Communications needs the client's
following
information provided, including: the sixteen (16) digit account number(s)
for all
accounts involved in the bankruptcy proceedings, any and all addresses
related to
these accounts, the full name(s) to which these accounts belong, as well as
any and
all social security numbers associated therein.
Please furnish this information to Charter Communication's Cash Management
division in a timely manner, in order to expedite the processing of the
client's
account(s). Please send information via fax to (616) 975-1107. Otherwise,
send via
mail to:
Frankly, this sounds like gobbledygook designed to see if they can trip us
up. They have the SSN, debtor's name, and address from the mailed copy of
the notice of bankruptcy. "Insufficient information from the client in
order to properly process the account in accordance with proper bankruptcy
policy established within corporate bylaws"?! I hope they don't expect that
those bylaws are any defense against 11 USC 362, nor that sending this
letter shifts responsibility for abiding by bankruptcy laws from the
creditor to the debtor.
John D. Faucher
Hurlbett & Faucher, LLP
5743 Corsa Ave., Suite 208
Westlake Village, CA 91362
(818) 889-8080
Fax: (805) 367-4154
http://www.hurlbettfaucher.com/
3324 State Street, Suite O
Santa Barbara, CA 93105
(805) 963-9111
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indicating that you received this message and then delete the message
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Hello listers: I occasionally get letters from creditors who have clearly gotten the notice of bankruptcy generated by my petition filing, but asking me to provide them even more information so, presumably, they don't violate the automatic stay. I generally ignore these, believing that the creditor probably has more information on these accounts than I do. Do you guys see any reason to answer them?
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