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social security

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:54 pm
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It seems more like they are arguing that mom can take care of herself and
does not need support from debtor because of SS Income. Since mom does not
need support, debtor cannot deduct such support from CMI.
David A. Tilem
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Law Offices of David A. Tilem (a debt relief agency)
206 N. Jackson Street, #201, Glendale, CA 91206
Tel: 818-507-6000 Fax: 818-507-6800
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Specialization.
James T. King
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 2:21 PM
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [cdcbaa] social security
Any member of the household that has SSI or Social Security income has
income which is excluded for the means test. Are they talking about I & J
expenses?

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social security

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:20 pm
by Yahoo Bot

Any member of the household that has SSI or Social Security income has
income which is excluded for the means test. Are they talking about I &
J expenses?

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social security

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:34 pm
by Yahoo Bot

In debtor's case if claiming 2 person household to cover dependent mom, then including mom's income is understandable since larger householdalso coversfood, clothing, etc. (not just rent and utiltiites). I think debtor should include mom's other non-standardized expenses under B22A line 35 or B22C line 40 (continued care of family member). These should net out to a numericalnon-issue.

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social security

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:37 am
by Yahoo Bot

Filing a case for a debtor who lives with his elderly mom and takes care of his elderly mom. Mom has social security income which she does not really contribute to the household.
UST and ch 7 Trustee are both taking the position mom's ssi has to be contributing to household, as mom would otherwise require more support.
So question is, is social security income of a dependent subject to the means test.
dennis

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