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Or sue in state court.
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> On Feb 15, 2019, at 2:47 PM, 'Steven B. Lever' sblever@leverlaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> Thank you for the responses and the very illuminating tentative decision.
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> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Do I need to reopen case for filing omitted creditor and prosecuting 523(a)(2) action [1 Attachment]
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> Judge Mund (on recall) appeared at an MCLE function for the San Fernando Valley Bar Association and maintains that state courts have concurrent jurisdiction to determine such claims.
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> In her tentative decision on whether to re-open or not, she addresses. It is attached. I have not seen the underlying briefs but apparently they did not layout well enough if/whether the omitted creditor had any notice in time to file a timely complaint. She did reopen which is administrative in nature. I believe you can file a complaint (for an unlisted creditor) without reopening -also noted in the tentative.
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> What I didn't get a chance to ask Judge Mund is - whether the fraudulent transfer action was property of the estate, which raises another set of issues. Good luck.
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> Shai Oved
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> The Law Offices of Shai Oved
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> Steve, I just did reopened a case for an omitted creditor to be able to file a 523(A0(2) fraud adversary proceeding with Judge Albert (the state court action is stayed). He granted it on that basis. I think I could have saved a step by just filing the adversary proceeding but I did not want to take a chance as the case was 8 years old. My problem now is an SOL issue to keep the adversary proceeding alive.
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> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:21 PM 'Steven B. Lever' sblever@leverlaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> I am trying to decide if I need to reopen the Chapter 7 case for an omitted creditor who wants to file a nondischargeability action for fraud under 11 U.S.C. 523(a)(2).
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> The case was pending in state court as a contract action, but the complaint is being amended to one under fraud. We would like to litigate the dischargeability issue in state court.
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> However, while Beezley says you dont have to reopen a case to list an omitted creditor, it says nothing about whether you have to start an adversary proceeding if youre alleging fraud. And there are cases that say for this type of action the bankruptcy court has exclusive jurisdiction. Nothing I know of says thats unnecessary with an omitted creditor.
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> Can I please have an opinion or two as to whether I need to reopen the bankruptcy case and start an adversary proceeding, even if the bankruptcy court allows us to litigate in state court?
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On the SOL issue take a look at Banks, 263 F.3d 862 (9th Cir. 2001).
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Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Do I need to reopen case for filing omitted creditor and prosecuting 523(a)(2) action
Steve, I just did reopened a case for an omitted creditor to be able to file a 523(A0(2) fraud adversary proceeding with Judge Albert (the state court action is stayed). He granted it on that basis. I think I could have saved a step by just filing the adversary proceeding but I did not want to take a chance as the case was 8 years old. My problem now is an SOL issue to keep the adversary proceeding alive.
Craig
Craig J. Beauchamp, Esq.Attorney at Law1502 N. Main StreetSanta Ana, CA 92701Mailing Address
PO Box 25857Santa Ana, CA 92799(949) 689-9709 direct line(714) 835-5763NO EX-PARTE NOTICE VIA VOICE MAIL OR EMAIL: I do not acceptnotice forEx ParteApplications via voicemail or by email. You must comply with California Law and give notice to a person in my office during regular business hours.
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On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:21 PM 'Steven B. Lever' sblever@leverlaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
I am trying to decide if I need to reopen the Chapter 7 case for an omitted creditor who wants to file a nondischargeability action for fraud under 11 U.S.C. 523(a)(2).
The case was pending in state court as a contract action, but the complaint is being amended to one under fraud. We would like to litigate the dischargeability issue in state court.
However, while Beezley says you dont have to reopen a case to list an omitted creditor, it says nothing about whether you have to start an adversary proceeding if youre alleging fraud. And there are cases that say for this type of action the bankruptcy court has exclusive jurisdiction. Nothing I know of says thats unnecessary with an omitted creditor.
Can I please have an opinion or two as to whether I need to reopen the bankruptcy case and start an adversary proceeding, even if the bankruptcy court allows us to litigate in state court?
Thank you
Steve Lever
Law Offices of Steven B. Lever
Steven B. Lever
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(Fax (562) 485-6886
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Judge Mund (on recall) appeared at an MCLE function for the San Fernando Valley Bar Association and maintains that state courts have concurrent jurisdiction to determine such claims.
In her tentative decision on whether to re-open or not, she addresses.tly they did not layout well enough if/whether the omitted creditor had any notice in time to file a timely complaint. She did reopen which is administrative in nature. I believe you can file a complaint (for an unlisted creditor) without reopening -also noted in the tentative.
What I didn't get a chance to ask Judge Mund is - whether the fraudulent transfer action was property of the estate, which raises another set of issues. Good luck.
Very truly yours,Shai OvedThe Law Offices of Shai Oved7445 Topanga Cyn. Blvd., Suite 220Canoga Park, California 91303.comwww.shaioved.com________________The information contained in this email is intended only for the individual or entity named above and may contain attorney privileged and confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by the telephone number above and return any hard copies to us via the postal service.. The Law Offices of Shai Oved is a debt relief agency which helps people file for bankruptcy under the Bankruptcy Code. Shai Oved isa Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialistby The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization.
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Sent: Fri, Feb 15, 2019 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Do I need to reopen case for filing omitted creditor and prosecuting 523(a)(2) action
le to file a 523(A0(2) fraud adversary proceeding with Judge Albert (the state court action is stayed). He granted it on that basis. I think I could have saved a step by just filing the adversary proceeding but I did not want to take a chance as the case was 8 years old. My problem now is an SOL issue to keep the adversary proceeding alive.
Craig
Craig J. Beauchamp, Esq.Attorney at Law1502 N. Main StreetSanta Ana, CA 92701Mailing Address
PO Box 25857Santa Ana, CA 92799(949) 689-9709 direct line(714) 835-5763NO EX-PARTE NOTICE VIA VOICE MAIL OR EMAIL: I do not acceptnotice forEx ParteApplications via voicemail or by email. You must comply with California Law and give notice to a person in my office during regular business hours.
General Practice: Civil Litigation, Real Estate, Wills and Trusts, and Bankruptcy law.
IMPORTANT NOTICE required by 11 U.S.C. 528:We are a debt relief agency. We help people file for bankruptcy relief under the Bankruptcy Code.
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On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:21 PM 'Steven B. Lever' sblever@leverlaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
I am trying to decide if I need to reopen the Chapter 7 case for an omitted creditor who wants to file a nondischargeability action for fraud under 11 U.S.C. 523(a)(2).The case was pending in state court as a contract action, but the complaint is being amended to one under fraud. We would like to litigate the dischargeability issue in state court.However, while Beezley says you dont have to reopen a case to list an omitted creditor, it says nothing about whether you have to start an adversary proceeding if youre alleging fraud. And there are cases that say for this type of action the bankruptcy court has exclusive jurisdiction. Nothing I know of says thats unnecessary with an omitted creditor.Can I please have an opinion or two as to whether I need to reopen the bankruptcy case and start an adversary proceeding, even if the bankruptcy court allows us to litigate in state court?
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