Central District Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney's Association

I agree with jim. Do not forget putting down the debtor's addresses for the past 6 years and any other names used. The declaration should also contain the correct social as well as the false number. One trustee wanted the declaration served on all the creditors as well as the credit reporting agencies. (on pleading paper)
I also agree with Hale. There is a risk of an DOJ investigation especially if the false number belongs to someone else. I hope the current social is a correct one.
David Jacob
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The filing is OK. You need to file a False Social Security
Declaration explaining the use, file it with the court, and serve it upon the
trustee and all three credit reporting agencies. And, as you note, do not use
the false social on the petition; anywhere.
Jim King
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Potential client has current, valid social
security number. However, a couple of years ago, client had invalid social
security number which was used to obtain consumer debt. Obviously, it makes
sense as to the invalid social security number not to put it on the petition
whatsoever. Nevertheless, what sort of inquiry can one expect from a Ch. 7
Trustee on a Valley case in regards to the invalid social security number?
Should the debtor even bother to file a Ch. 7 with this fact pattern?
Lindsey B. Green, Esq.
Gumm & Green, LLP, Attorneys at Law
5743 Corsa Ave., Suite 111
Westlake Village, CA 91362
phone: 818 707 4233
fax: 818 707 4262
e-mail- Lindsey@gummandgree n.com
I agree with jim. Do not forget putting down the debtor's addresses for the past 6 years and any other names used. The declaration should also contain the correct social as well as the false number. One trustee wanted the declaration served on all the creditors as well as the credit reporting agencies. (on pleading paper) I also agree with Hale. There is a risk of an DOJ investigation especially if the false number belongs to someone else. I hope the current social is a correct one. David JacobFrom: James T. King <king@kingobk.com>To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.comSent: Thu, June 3, 2010 2:18:54 PMSubject: RE: [cdcbaa] invalid social security number

The filing is OK. You need to file a False Social Security
Declaration explaining the use, file it with the court, and serve it upon the
trustee and all three credit reporting agencies. And, as you note, do not use
the false social on the petition; anywhere.
Jim King

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Potential client has current, valid social
security number. However, a couple of years ago, client had invalid social
security number which was used to obtain consumer debt. Obviously, it makes
sense as to the invalid social security number not to put it on the petition
whatsoever. Nevertheless, what sort of inquiry can one expect from a Ch. 7
Trustee on a Valley case in regards to the invalid social security number?
Should the debtor even bother to file a Ch. 7 with this fact pattern?
Lindsey B. Green, Esq.
Gumm & Green, LLP, Attorneys at Law
5743 Corsa Ave., Suite 111
Westlake Village, CA 91362
phone: 818 707 4233
fax: 818 707 4262
e-mail- Lindsey@gummandgree n.com

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The typical Chapter 7 Trustee questions include, but are not limited to:

* Was this Social Security Number issued to you by the US Government?
* Have you ever used any other Social Security Number?

You want, under oath, a Yes and No. If those are not the true answers, they
don't want to file bankruptcy.

As an aside, Maureen Tighe, when she was US Trustee, prosecuted -- and got
convictions with jail time -- people who stole someone else's credit and/or
identity. As you know, she now is a judge sitting in the Valley. You can
search caselaw for examples using her name and fact pattern.

Hale
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He would be admitting to identity theft!
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The filing is OK. You need to file a False Social Security Declaration
explaining the use, file it with the court, and serve it upon the
trustee and all three credit reporting agencies. And, as you note, do
not use the false social on the petition; anywhere.
Jim King

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Potential client has current, valid social security number. However, a couple of years ago, client had invalid social security number which was used to obtain consumer debt. Obviously, it makes sense as to the invalid social security number not to put it on the petition whatsoever. Nevertheless, what sort of inquiry can one expect from a Ch. 7 Trustee on a Valley case in regards to the invalid social security number? Should the debtor even bother to file a Ch. 7 with this fact pattern?
Lindsey B. Green, Esq.
Gumm & Green, LLP, Attorneys at Law
5743 Corsa Ave., Suite 111
Westlake Village, CA 91362
phone: 818 707 4233
fax: 818 707 4262
e-mail- Lindsey@gummandgreen.com

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