Central District Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney's Association

OK, I have spent at least 15 minutes trying to make sense of the old
thread and this is not helping me yet. Sorry but I am being
vocab-challenged here.
The copy you send in after ECF filing -- what is that one called? (I
have always mailed to to the court with the word BK FILING on the top
of my address).
The copy you send to judge specifically -- what is that one called?
(I mail these usually too -- write DIVISION XX on top -- does that
even work?)
Is there any other copy? Seriously this is not a new problem for me
know there are other newer attorneys here, someone please start at
Kindergarten level with these copies. I think I get confused when I
have had this explained in the past because everyone's explanations
start with "So before you used to do this..." and since I never
practiced pre-ECF, that just makes my head spin.
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2008/12/18 David A. Tilem :
> Received this from Judge Donovan which I pass on for your consideration:
>
> The quick answer is that "chamber's copies" and "courtesy copies" are a
> matter specified in the LBRs, as currently effective, subject to special
> requirements that any judge might publish. "Judges" copies" are a
> refinement of the current LBRs and, when implemented by public announcement
> (maybe in January), will completely replace the older LBRs as they relate to
> "chamber's" and "courtesy" copies. The new rules will govern, when they
> become effective, by public notice. At that time, lawyers should strike the
> old terms from their vocabulary when they are talking to the court or in
> court. In addition, they should carefully familiarize themselves with the
> new rules and follow them carefully if they don't want to incur
> disappointments or delays in having their papers considered by a judge.
> Speaking for myself, we really need these papers delivered as prescribed in
> order to do our job well and fairly to all concerned.
>
> David A. Tilem
> Certified Bankruptcy Specialist*
> Law Offices of David A. Tilem (a debt relief agency)
> 206 N. Jackson Street, #201, Glendale, CA 91206
> Tel: 818-507-6000 Fax: 818-507-6800
>
> * Bankruptcy specialist cert. by State Bar of CA Bd of Legal
> Specialization.
> Business bankruptcy specialist cert. by Amer. Bd. of Certification
>
>

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Received this from Judge Donovan which I pass on for your consideration:
The quick answer is that "chamber's copies" and "courtesy copies" are a
matter specified in the LBRs, as currently effective, subject to special
requirements that any judge might publish. "Judges" copies" are a
refinement of the current LBRs and, when implemented by public announcement
(maybe in January), will completely replace the older LBRs as they relate to
"chamber's" and "courtesy" copies. The new rules will govern, when they
become effective, by public notice. At that time, lawyers should strike the
old terms from their vocabulary when they are talking to the court or in
court. In addition, they should carefully familiarize themselves with the
new rules and follow them carefully if they don't want to incur
disappointments or delays in having their papers considered by a judge.
Speaking for myself, we really need these papers delivered as prescribed in
order to do our job well and fairly to all concerned.
David A. Tilem
Certified Bankruptcy Specialist*
Law Offices of David A. Tilem (a debt relief agency)
206 N. Jackson Street, #201, Glendale, CA 91206
Tel: 818-507-6000 Fax: 818-507-6800
* Bankruptcy specialist cert. by State Bar of CA Bd of Legal
Specialization.
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Received this from Judge
Donovan which I pass on for your consideration:

The quick answer is
that "chamber's copies" and "courtesy copies" are a matter specified in theLBRs, as currently effective, subject to special requirements that any judge
might publish. "Judges" copies" are a refinement of the current LBRs and,
when implemented by public announcement (maybe in January), will completelyreplace the older LBRs as they relate to "chamber's" and "courtesy" copies. The new rules will govern, when they become effective, by public notice.
At that time, lawyers should strike the old terms from their vocabulary
when they are talking to the court or in court. In addition, they should
carefully familiarize themselves with the new rules and follow them carefully if
they don't want to incur disappointments or delays in having their papers
considered by a judge. Speaking for myself, we really need these papers
delivered as prescribed in order to do our job well and fairly to all
concerned.

David A.
Tilem
Certified Bankruptcy
Specialist*
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