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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:27 pm
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Thespecial circumtances exception toCMI doesn't cover those facts, see 707(b)(2)(B)(i). Need to wait for dismissal and file whenLaw Offices of Peter M. Lively
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Prospective debtor obtained a hardship pension distribution during the six-month CMI period, making him "flunk" the means test by a significant amount. The distribution was one-time, and will not occur again. While I know he could wait a few months to get the distribution outside ofthe six-month CMI period, due to an entered default judgment (likely wage garnishment) , he would prefer not to. A chapter 13 is not workable.
Is this one of those special circumstances cases where the case can be filed as presumed abuse and then the circumstances can be explained ? If so, should the explanation be included somewhere in B22A ?
Thx
The special circumtances exception to CMI doesn't cover those facts, see 707(b)(2)(B)(i). Need to wait for dismissal and file when CMI is lower. Peter M. Lively, J.D./M.B.A.Law Offices of Peter M. Lively Personal Financial Law Center I11965 Venice Blvd, Suite 301 Los Angeles, CA 90066-3977 310-899-0630 800-307-DEBT (3328)Fax: 310-899-0632 A-Bankruptcy-Attorney.com
Personal Financial Law Center II1706 Newport Boulevard, Suite BCosta Mesa, California 92627-3073Telephone: 949-650-DEBT(3328)
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From: "mitnicklaw@aol.com" <mitnicklaw@aol.com>To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.comSent: Mon, December 28, 2009 1:07:17 PMSubject: [cdcbaa] missed it by that much
Prospective debtor obtained a hardship pension distribution during the six-month CMI period, making him "flunk" the means test by a significant amount. The distribution was one-time, and will not occur again. While I know he could wait a few months to get the distribution outside of the six-month CMI period, due to an entered default judgment (likely wage garnishment) , he would prefer not to. A chapter 13 is not workable.

Is this one of those special circumstances cases where the case can be filed as presumed abuse and then the circumstances can be explained ? If so, should the explanation be included somewhere in B22A ?

Thx


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missed it by that much

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:39 pm
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do two means tests - one with and one without the pension distribution. add
letter of explanation. should be fine
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Subject: [cdcbaa] missed it by that much
Prospective debtor obtained a hardship pension distribution during the
six-month CMI period, making him "flunk" the means test by a significant
amount. The distribution was one-time, and will not occur again. While I
know he could wait a few months to get the distribution outside of the
six-month CMI period, due to an entered default judgment (likely wage
garnishment), he would prefer not to. A chapter 13 is not workable.
Is this one of those special circumstances cases where the case can be filed
as presumed abuse and then the circumstances can be explained ? If so,
should the explanation be included somewhere in B22A ?
Thx
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do two means tests - one
with and one without the pension distribution. add letter of
explanation. should be fine


David A.
Tilem
Certified Bankruptcy
Specialist*
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missed it by that much

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:07 pm
by Yahoo Bot

Prospective debtor obtained a hardship pension distribution during the
six-month CMI period, making him "flunk" the means test by a significant
amount. The distribution was one-time, and will not occur again. While I know
he could wait a few months to get the distribution outside of the six-month
CMI period, due to an entered default judgment (likely wage garnishment),
he would prefer not to. A chapter 13 is not workable.

Is this one of those special circumstances cases where the case can be
filed as presumed abuse and then the circumstances can be explained ? If so,
should the explanation be included somewhere in B22A ?

Thx
Prospective debtor obtained a hardship pension distribution during thesix-month CMI period, making him "flunk" the means test by a significant
amount. The distribution was one-time, and will not occur again. While I
know he could wait a few months to get the distribution outside of thesix-month CMI period, due to an entered default judgment (likely wage
garnishment), he would prefer not to. A chapter 13 is not workable.

Is this one of those special circumstances cases where the case can befiled as presumed abuse and then the circumstances can be explained ? If
so, should the explanation be included somewhere in B22A ?

Thx

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