I never realized there were statutes on rent skimming. I always just
assumed it was improper to use rents because of the rents (i.e. cash
collateral) clauses in the Deeds of Trust. Nonetheless, I have clients
doing this all the time and I've never seen the creditor secured by said
rents take any action (this almost always occurs in a foreclosure scenario).
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On 1/16/2010 8:47 AM, Larry Webb wrote:
>
>
> David,
>
> The concern is rent skimming. PC is current with her mortgage,
> however she intends to use her next rental check to pay the costs and
> fees for filing a chapter 7. She has owned the property for 27 years
> as her residence and only converted it to a rental after her divorce
> because she could not afford the mortgage + HELOC. My research
> indicates that using her next rental check for costs and fees should
> not be problem.
>
> Ca Civ Code 890 "/Rent skimming" means using revenue received from
> the rental of a parcel of residential real property at any time during
> the first year period after acquiring that property without first
> applying the revenue or an equivalent amount to the payments due on
> all mortgages and deeds of trust encumbering that property./ She has
> owned the property for 27 years therefore 890 should not be a problem.
>
> Federal Law defines equity skimming 12 U.S.C. 1709-2 /Whoever, with
> intent to defraud, willfully engages in a pattern or practice of.
> /1709-2 also says that /Nothing in this section shall apply to the
> purchaser of only one such dwelling./ Therefore the PC should not
> liable for equity skimming however 1709-2 provides for fines and
> imprisonment and I dont want to let the potential client go out on
> thin ice.
>
> I guess the question is am I missing anything or am I over thinking
> the obvious?
>
> Larry Webb
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> *From:*
cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
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> Behalf Of *David A. Tilem
> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2010 6:29 PM
> *To:*
cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [cdcbaa] proceeds from rental
>
> If she files with rent in hand, it is property of the estate. If she
> deposits it and files, it is property of the estate. What is the
> question here?
>
> *David A. Tilem*
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> -----Original Message-----
> *From:*
cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Larry Webb
> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2010 8:13 AM
> *To:*
cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [cdcbaa] proceeds from rental
> *Importance:* High
>
> I am not sure if this questions was received by the list serve
> yesterday, sorry if this is a duplicate.
>
> PC moved out of her primary residence is renting it out to make the
> mortgage. PC is current in the mortgage, is ready to file ch7 and has
> a rent check in hand. Is the PC obligated to segregate the rent
> payment if she is current on the mortgage?
>
> Thank you
>
> Larry Webb
> email
Larry@Webbklaw.com
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> PC moved out of her primary residence is renting it out to make the
> mortgage. PC is current in the mortgage, is ready to file ch7 and has
> a rent check in hand. Is the PC obligated to segregate the rent
> payment if she is current on the mortgage?
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
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