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On Oct 9, 2010, at 10:42 AM, higginbothamlaw@aol.com wrote:
Nancy Curry's judges are recommending that IF the case is not ready to go at the 341(a) then it be set out 4-6 months to allow the bar date to pass. At the time of the later cf hrg it is either confirm or dismiss. This greatly cuts down on the # of hearings -- but also often delays atty fees from being paid. Therefore, good attys should be asking for more of the atty fees up front. Bad attys, paralegal run firms, hands-off attys etc., should provide for more of their atty fees in the plan so that their work can be properly reviewed by the court and the trustee.
KEITH ALAN HIGGINBOTHAM
Pedro Mayser, Office Manager
THE LAW OFFICES OF KEITH ALAN HIGGINBOTHAM
255 S. Grand Avenue, Suite #2109
Los Angeles, CA 90012-3045
Phone: 213.620.0176
Facsimile: 213.613.1200
HigginbothamLaw@aol.com
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:51 am
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] L.A. Chapter 13 Confirm Date
Dennis,
My understanding has been that payments to underwater residential seconds end as of entry of 506(d) judgment, not confirmation, in EC cases. Is there a new local lcoal rule?
Thanks
Peter
Peter M. Lively, JD/MBA
Law Office of Peter M. Lively * Personal Financial Law Center I
11268 Washington Blvd, Suite 203, Culver City, CA 90230-4647
Telephone: (310)391-2400 * (800)307-3328 * Fax: (310)391-2462
A-Bankruptcy-Attorney.com
Personal Financial Law Center II - Costa Mesa, CA
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Nancy Curry's judges are recommending that IF the case is not ready to go at the 341(a) then it be set out 4-6 months to allow the bar date to pass. At the time of the later cf hrg it is either confirm or dismiss. This greatly cuts down on the # of hearings -- but also often delays atty fees from being paid. Therefore, good attys should be asking for more of the atty fees up front. Bad attys, paralegal run firms, hands-off attys etc., should provide for more of their atty fees in the plan so that their work can be properly reviewed by the court and the trustee.
KEITH ALAN HIGGINBOTHAM
Pedro Mayser, Office Manager
THE LAW OFFICES OF KEITH ALAN HIGGINBOTHAM
255 S. Grand Avenue, Suite #2109
Los Angeles, CA 90012-3045
Phone: 213.620.0176
Facsimile: 213.613.1200
HigginbothamLaw@aol.com
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:51 am
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] L.A. Chapter 13 Confirm Date
Dennis,
My understanding has been that payments to underwater residential seconds end as of entry of 506(d) judgment, not confirmation, in EC cases. Is there a new local lcoal rule?
Thanks
Peter
Peter M. Lively, JD/MBA
Law Office of Peter M. Lively * Personal Financial Law Center I
11268 Washington Blvd, Suite 203, Culver City, CA 90230-4647
Telephone: (310)391-2400 * (800)307-3328 * Fax: (310)391-2462
A-Bankruptcy-Attorney.com
Personal Financial Law Center II - Costa Mesa, CA
THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED, AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, OR THE EMPLOYEE OR AGENT RESPONSIBLE FOR DELIVERING THE MESSAGE TO THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY DISSEMINATION, DISTRIBUTION OR COPYING OF THIS COMMUNICATION IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS COMMUNICATION IN ERROR, PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY E-MAIL OR BY TELEPHONE. THANK YOU.

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Dennis,
er residential seconds
end as of entry of 506(d) judgment, notconfirmation, in EC cases.new local lcoal rule?
Thanks
Peter
Law Office of Peter M. Lively * Personal Financial Law Center I
11268 Washington Blvd, Suite 203, Culver City, CA 90230-4647
Telephone: (310)391-2400 * (800)307-3328 * Fax: (310)391-2462
A-Bankruptcy-Attorney.com
Personal Financial Law Center II - Costa Mesa, CA
THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH
IT IS ADDRESSED, AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL
AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE
IS NOT THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, OR THE EMPLOYEE OR AGENT RESPONSIBLE FOR
DELIVERING THE MESSAGE TO THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT
ANY DISSEMINATION, DISTRIBUTION OR COPYING OF THIS COMMUNICATION IS STRICTLY
PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS COMMUNICATION IN ERROR, PLEASE NOTIFY US
IMMEDIATELY BY E-MAIL OR BY TELEPHONE. THANK YOU.
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To: "cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Fri, October 8, 2010 9:18:10 PM
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] L.A. Chapter 13 Confirm Date
Gosh, change the admin percentage to 100% of plan payments and get a fat check
the month after confo. The change is to have the claims bar date run before
confo. We can work with this. Keep in mind, we have a judge who fights low
percentage payouts to unsecureds. If the bar date runs prior to confo, the
unfiled claims raise the percentage. EC will, however require payments to
unsecured seconds until this confo.
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On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:41 PM, "Jonathan" wrote:
>Head up!
>
>I just filed a chapter 13 case for LA. The 341 is 11/17. BUT.. DRAMATIC
>PAUSE...the confirm date is April 28,2011!!!!
>
>I put part of my fee in the plan. Needless to say I will not being doing that
>for LA cases any longer.
>
>Jonathan Leventhal
>
>
Dennis,
My understanding has been that payments to underwater residential seconds end as of entry of 506(d) judgment, not confirmation, in EC cases. Is there a new local lcoal rule?
Thanks
Peter Peter M. Lively, JD/MBALaw Office of Peter M. Lively * Personal Financial Law Center I11268 Washington Blvd, Suite 203, Culver City, CA 90230-4647Telephone: (310)391-2400 * (800)307-3328 * Fax: (310)391-2462 A-Bankruptcy-Attorney.comPersonal Financial Law Center II - Costa Mesa, CA
THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED, AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, OR THE EMPLOYEE OR AGENT RESPONSIBLE FOR DELIVERING THE MESSAGE TO THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY DISSEMINATION, DISTRIBUTION OR COPYING OF THIS COMMUNICATION IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS COMMUNICATION IN ERROR, PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY E-MAIL OR BY TELEPHONE. THANK YOU.
From: Dennis <easky1@yahoo.com>To: "cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com" <cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Fri, October 8, 2010 9:18:10 PMSubject: Re: [cdcbaa] L.A. Chapter 13 Confirm Date
Gosh, change the admin percentage to 100% of plan payments and get a fat check the month after confo. The change is to have the claims bar date run before confo. We can work with this. Keep in mind, we have a judge who fights low percentage payouts to unsecureds. If the bar date runs prior to confo, the unfiled claims raise the percentage. EC will, however require payments to unsecured seconds until this confo.
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On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:41 PM, "Jonathan" <law@3yl.com> wrote:

Head up!I just filed a chapter 13 case for LA. The 341 is 11/17. BUT.. DRAMATIC PAUSE...the confirm date is April 28,2011!!!!I put part of my fee in the plan. Needless to say I will not being doing that for LA cases any longer.Jonathan Leventhal

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Gosh, change the admin percentage to 100% of plan payments and get a fat check the month after confo. The change is to have the claims bar date run before confo. We can work with this. Keep in mind, we have a judge who fights low percentage payouts to unsecureds. If the bar date runs prior to confo, the unfiled claims raise the percentage. EC will, however require payments to unsecured seconds until this confo.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:41 PM, "Jonathan" wrote:
Head up!
I just filed a chapter 13 case for LA. The 341 is 11/17. BUT.. DRAMATIC PAUSE...the confirm date is April 28,2011!!!!
I put part of my fee in the plan. Needless to say I will not being doing that for LA cases any longer.
Jonathan Leventhal
Gosh, change the admin percentage to 100% of plan payments and get a fat check the month after confo. The change is to have the claims bar date run before confo. We can work with this. Keep in mind, we have a judge who fights low percentage payouts to unsecureds. If the bar date runs prior to confo, the unfiled claims raise the percentage. EC will, however require payments to unsecured seconds until this confo.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 8, 2010, at 4:41 PM, "Jonathan" <law@3yl.com> wrote:

Head up!
I just filed a chapter 13 case for LA. The 341 is 11/17. BUT.. DRAMATIC PAUSE...the confirm date is April 28,2011!!!!
I put part of my fee in the plan. Needless to say I will not being doing that for LA cases any longer.
Jonathan Leventhal

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