plan addendum -- anybody sued under this?

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I do not understand your question
M. Erik Clark
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Pat,
Yes that is t main focus of all the addendum provisions. I think our
obligation is to review all pleadings filed by the servicer (MFR, POCs
etc) and look for the hidden fees. Then when you find them, and you
will, object to them. As for getting paid, you file a supplemental fee
app - or get the servicer to pay your fees. We have done both. In a
perfect world you would order a QWR towards the end of the case to make
sure nothing has happened. The other important issue is to alert your
client to be on the lookout. Once they know what to look for it is
amazing what they can find.
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Hopefully, the appeal will be over soon. The briefing has completed and
now we are just waiting on the 9th Circuit.
Thank you,
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charsetndows-1252
Yikes, that is a real disincentive to filing the addendum in the first place.
If its a 0% plan, or in almost every event, you wont get fairly compensated for that review (apparently especially in Riverside).
Jason
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> Now, I dont speak for Erik, but I think the cost of reviewing the monthly statement is ministerial and could be absorbed in your fees. The review of the quarterly statements I would venture to guess would be more involved and you could file a supplemental fee application in order to review the quarterly report (and monthly statements). If you dont find anything unusual, you may not need to spend much time on the statements and the quarterly reports but if you do find something it is in your clients best interest and the best interest of the estate that you resolve the issue. Your client will be grateful you did and supplemental fees will be completely justified. You may even have to file an adversary proceeding against the mortgage creditor for accounting. You may recoup your fees from the creditor if they are misapplying payments.
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> Isnt the main purpose to keep an eye on their accounting while the case is pending so there are no post filing surprises?
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> If the answer is yes, what do you think our obligation as counsel for the debtor is to review the monthly statements?
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> I agree. However, note that the case about the addendum is in front of the 9th Circuit on appeal
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charsetndows-1252
Yikes, that is a real disincentive to filing the addendum in the first place.If its a 0% plan, or in almost every event, you wont get fairly compensated for that review (apparently especially in Riverside).JasonOn Oct 8, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Nancy Clark wrote:


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