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Pre-petition HOA arrearages?

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:12 pm
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Lien rights depend on CC&R's.
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Subject: [cdcbaa] Pre-petition HOA arrearages?
Hello everyone,
I have a question on pre-petition HOA arrearages.
I have a potential client with around $12,000 of pre-petition HOA
arrearages. He will be filing Ch 13 to catch up with his mortgage and will
resume payments to the HOA after filing his case. Somehow I had the
impression that homeowners' associations had a statutory lien on owners'
units for association dues, but after further research I can not find a
statute indicating that HOAs have an automatic statutory lien.
523(a)(16) excepts from discharge any post-petition HOA dues, but does not
say anything about pre-petition arrearages. Cal. Civ. Code Section 1367
outlines the procedure for HOAs to record liens for back association dues.
Am I correct in concluding that absent the recording of a lien by the
association, the HOA arrearages are considered general unsecured debt and
that no lien strip is needed in order to treat these debts as Class 5 debts
in a Chapter 13 plan? And if a lien has been recorded by the HOA, and the
lien is wholly unsecured, are there any special limitations on the debtor's
ability to strip the lien?
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Lien rights depend on
CC&R's.


David A.
Tilem
Certified Bankruptcy
Specialist*
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Pre-petition HOA arrearages?

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:54 pm
by Yahoo Bot

Hello everyone,
I have a question on pre-petition HOA arrearages.
I have a potential client with around $12,000 of pre-petition HOA arrearages. He will be filing Ch 13 to catch up with his mortgage and will resume payments to the HOA after filing his case. Somehow I had the impression that homeowners' associations had a statutory lien on owners' units for association dues, but after further research I can not find a statute indicating that HOAs have an automatic statutory lien.
523(a)(16) excepts from discharge any post-petition HOA dues, but does not say anything about pre-petition arrearages. Cal. Civ. Code Section 1367 outlines the procedure for HOAs to record liens for back association dues. Am I correct in concluding that absent the recording of a lien by the association, the HOA arrearages are considered general unsecured debt and that no lien strip is needed in order to treat these debts as Class 5 debts in a Chapter 13 plan? And if a lien has been recorded by the HOA, and the lien is wholly unsecured, are there any special limitations on the debtor's ability to strip the lien?

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