Central District Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney's Association

I, too, take fully-amortizing payments in the means test and advise the
clients to, in fact, make fully-amortizing payments going forward.
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Giovanni Orantes, Esq.
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I, too, take fully-amortizing payments in the means test and advise the clients to, in fact, make fully-amortizing payments going forward.
-- Giovanni Orantes, Esq. Orantes Law Firm, P.C.3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1980Los Angeles, CA 90010Tel: (213) 389-4362
Phone: (888) 619-8222 x101Fax: (877) 789-5776e-mail: go@gobklaw.comwebsite: www.gobklaw.comWE ARE A "DEBT RELIEF AGENCY" AS DEFINED BY FEDERAL LAW.
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Is that regardless of what the client has actually been paying? Have
you ever had any challenges on this from the UST?

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Erik, have you ever had the issue raised by the US Trustee in a Chapter 7 case?
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We always use the 30 year fully amortorized option
M. Erik Clark

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What are members of this group doing with respect to clients that have
"option ARM mortgages" in the means test? Clients with this type of
mortgage have a choice, usually 1, 2, 3 or 4 for payments. The 1st
option is the lowest payment which is a negative amortization, the 2nd
option is interest only, the third option is like a 30 year mortgage,
and the last one is the "accelerated" option that makes it like a 15
year mortgage.
Of course most clients considering bankruptcy use Option 1. However, do
you put that amount as their payment, or can you use the 3rd option that
makes it more like normal people would choose and have always chosen
back when the housing market was sane?
I use the Option 3 because I am an advocate for my client and I believe
the choice is theirs as to what the "contractually due" amount is, even
though they have four options. Eventually the negative amortization and
interest only options will disappear.
The only run in with the UST I had on a case where I could have
litigated they went all "totality of the circumstances" (707(b)(3) on me
and didn't move for dismissal under 707(b)(2). I know of no published
decisions on this issue and there were none when I had the case to which
I refer.
So again, what to do with option ARM mortgages in the means test?
Steve
Law Offices of Steven B. Lever
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