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Not necessarily. Even if the class had accepted (by 2/3 amount and 1/2 number of claims "voting" in favor of the Plan) and anyONE member of the class holding a general unsecured claim had "objected" to the Plan, then the debtor would still have been required to committ5 years of PDI, pursuant to 1129(a)(15) and that 1115(a)(2) property would not have vested in the debtor at confirmation.
It was the failure to "object" distinguished from a yes or not "vote" that was focused on in the ruling.
Here is the mental gymnastics: The onlyvoteof the general unsecured creditor class (of many creditors)voted "no" but did not "object" toconfirmation.The failure to"object"was deemed to result in no requirement to pay 60 months of PDI into the Plan by the debtor [(1129(a)(15) which is analogous to 1325(b)(1)(B)'s requirement of 60 months of PDI if Class 5 objects), of course in Chapter 13 there is a standingobjection by the Chapter 13 Trustee so this result never happens in Chapter 13] so the Plan could be confirmed under 1129(b)(2)(B)(ii) as being "fair and equitable" without paying the unsecured creditors in full.Due to the failire to object,all of the property (1115 post-petition earning of the debtor during the5 years fromthe effective date of thePlan and 541 property) vested in the debtor at confirmation except the 10% paymentprovided to the general unsecured creditors, as ifthe Planwas "accepted" by thegeneral
unsecured class.
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Peter:
Doesn't this case also establish the proposition that those who abstain are nottreated as "yes" votes? If those abstaining had been counted as yes votes, this plan would have been confirmed consensually. See f.n. 3.
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Not necessarily. Even if the class had accepted (by 2/3 amount and 1/2 number of claims "voting" in favor of the Plan) and any ONE member of the class holding a general unsecured claim had "objected" to the Plan, then the debtor would still have been required to committ 5 years of PDI, pursuant to 1129(a)(15) and that 1115(a)(2) property would not have vested in the debtor at confirmation.

It was the failure to "object" distinguished from a yes or not "vote" that was focused on in the ruling.

Here is the mental gymnastics: The only vote of the general unsecured creditor class (of many creditors) voted "no" but did not "object" to confirmation. The failure to "object" was deemed to result in no requirement to pay 60 months of PDI into the Plan by the debtor [(1129(a)(15) which is analogous to 1325(b)(1)(B)'s requirement of 60 months of PDI if Class 5 objects), of course in Chapter 13 there is a standing objection by the Chapter 13 Trustee so this result never happens in Chapter 13] so the Plan could be confirmed under 1129(b)(2)(B)(ii) as being "fair and equitable" without paying the unsecured creditors in full. Due to the failire to object, all of the property (1115 post-petition earning of the debtor during the 5 years from the effective date of the Plan and 541 property) vested in the debtor at confirmation except the 10% payment provided to the
general unsecured creditors, as if the Plan was "accepted" by the general unsecured class. Peter M. Lively, JD/MBALaw Office of Peter M. Lively * Personal Financial Law Center I11268 Washington Blvd, Suite 203, Culver City, CA 90230-4647Telephone: (310)391-2400 * (800)307-3328 * Fax: (310)391-2462 A-Bankruptcy-Attorney.com
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From: David A. Tilem <DavidTilem@TilemLaw.com>To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.comSent: Wed, March 3, 2010 5:53:11 PMSubject: RE: [cdcbaa] Absolute Priority Rule does NOT apply to individual Chapter 11 Debtors (Judge Markell Opinion; In re Shat)
Peter:

Doesn't this case also establish the proposition that those who abstain are not treated as "yes" votes? If those abstaining had been counted as yes votes, this plan would have been confirmed consensually. See f.n. 3.



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