Judge Ellen Carroll's ReApp
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:37 am
What bashing? An attorney simply commented that certain policies of a certain judge, polices within that judges discretion, were having an adverse impact on his clients. He could probably prove it if he had to. Why are judges immune to criticism outside of the courtroom? Especially criticism directly related to their actions in very public courtrooms? Is their a local rule against free speech?
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> Can we please put a stop to this bashing? This is totally inappropriate
> for this list serve. The same would be true of trustees.
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> Of Giovanni Orantes
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:39 PM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Judge Ellen Carroll's ReApp
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> You're entitled to your opinion even if you're wrong. That "some"
> people have been living beyond their means is irrelevant for those who
> have lost their jobs in this economic depression and surprisingly found
> themselves unable to afford the mortgages they once were able to pay. I
> know there have been worse judges in the past and Santa Barbara is ruled
> by such a judge, but I choose to be optimistic and hope we get a
> reasonable one as replacement.
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> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 5:26 PM, warren brown wrote:
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> Some clients don't have the money because they have been living beyond
> their means for too long. The word "capricious" denotes whimsy or
> unpredictability. The judge to whom you refer has neither of those
> characteristics. She is quite predictable. She simply has a much higher
> standard of personal responsibility than most. It is quite inconvenient
> at times, but there have been a couple over the years who were much
> worse.
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> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
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> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 15:54:46 -0700
> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Judge Ellen Carroll's ReApp
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> Hey, I can deal with individual judges, but some clients don't have the
> money to do so. Since you can affect the reapp of a judge, part of
> being a lawyer consists of chiming in with comments when a judge
> adversely impacts too many people capriciously.
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> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 2:27 PM, warren brown wrote:
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> How long will you be a lawyer? Learn to deal with individual judges and
> stop whining
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> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 10:13:18 -0700
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> Subject: [cdcbaa] Judge Ellen Carroll's ReApp
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> When is Judge Carroll up for reapp? She is hurting many consumers with
> her idiosyncratic policies.
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