Central District Consumer Bankruptcy Attorney's Association

Go to: https://efile.cacb.uscourts.gov/ then click on the "procedures" link and one of the files there is a reservation form for upcoming training.
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Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Re: Mandatory e-filing
Hi Mark
Thanx...for keeping us abreast of developments regarding eFiling. Where can we find more information?...get information regarding classes and such...
Thanking you in advance
Joyfully grateful
John O. Adams, Esq.
8383 Wilshire Blvd Suite 919
Beverly Hills CA 90211
323.966.5533
Fax 323.658.8948
mkbjd wrote:
Mark,
One of my staff members went to efile training this morning and she
says that you can still use whatever software program you are
currently using--Best Case, BK Pro, etc--and then convert the forms
into pdf and then use Adobe Acrobat to send the forms to the Court.
Melissa Besecker
--- In cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com, "Mark J. Markus" wrote:
> As most of you have probably heard, e-filing for certain court
documents, including Chapter 7 petitions, are soon going to become
mandatory. While this in and of itself is not a bad thing, the
unusual requirements of this district are. Mainly you will be
required to use online forms provided by the Court, immediately
rendering your bankruptcy software a sunk cost. All the bells and
whistles you have with your programs (such as auto-filling of
creditor address information ,calculations, etc.): Gone. Ability to
go back to your petition and change everything over to a Ch. 13:
Gone. Ability to amend schedules by making changes to information
you already have in your forms (with your exemption analysis, etc.):
Gone. This is a real problem. I am only scratching the surface.
Every other jurisdiction that I know of using e-filing allows you to
use your existing bankruptcy software to create a .pdf file and just
submit that. That would be fine, but for some reason--to my
knowledge--this district has decided to be different and complicate
things.
>
> So, I think that we need to immediately voice our opposition and
concerns and, if necessary, form a committee to do the same.
>
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Hi Mark

Thanx...for keeping us abreast of developments regarding eFiling. Where can we find more information?...get information regarding classes and such...

Thanking you in advance

Joyfully grateful

John O. Adams, Esq.
8383 Wilshire Blvd Suite 919
Beverly Hills CA 90211
323.966.5533
Fax 323.658.8948
mkbjd wrote:
Mark,
One of my staff members went to efile training this morning and she
says that you can still use whatever software program you are
currently using--Best Case, BK Pro, etc--and then convert the forms
into pdf and then use Adobe Acrobat to send the forms to the Court.
Melissa Besecker
> As most of you have probably heard, e-filing for certain court
documents, including Chapter 7 petitions, are soon going to become
mandatory. While this in and of itself is not a bad thing, the
unusual requirements of this district are. Mainly you will be
required to use online forms provided by the Court, immediately
rendering your bankruptcy software a sunk cost. All the bells and
whistles you have with your programs (such as auto-filling of
creditor address information ,calculations, etc.): Gone. Ability to
go back to your petition and change everything over to a Ch. 13:
Gone. Ability to amend schedules by making changes to information
you already have in your forms (with your exemption analysis, etc.):
Gone. This is a real problem. I am only scratching the surface.
Every other jurisdiction that I know of using e-filing allows you to
use your existing bankruptcy software to create a .pdf file and just
submit that. That would be fine, but for some reason--to my
knowledge--this district has decided to be different and complicate
things.
>
> So, I think that we need to immediately voice our opposition and
concerns and, if necessary, form a committee to do the same.
>
> ***********************************************
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> Law Office of Mark J. Markus
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> Studio City, CA 91604-2652
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Hi Mark

Thanx...for keeping us abreast of developments regarding eFiling. Where can we find more information?...get information regarding classes and such...

Thanking you in advance

Joyfully grateful

John O. Adams, Esq.
8383 Wilshire Blvd Suite 919
Beverly Hills CA 90211323.966.5533
Fax 323.658.8948mkbjd <mkbjd@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mark, One of my staff members went to efile training this morning and she says that you can still use whatever software program you are currently using--Best Case, BK Pro, etc--and then convert the forms into pdf and then use Adobe Acrobat to send the forms to the Court. Melissa Besecker--- In cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com, "Mark J. Markus" wrote:> As most of you have probably heard, e-filing for certain court documents, including Chapter 7 petitions, are soon going to become mandatory. While this in and of itself is not a bad thing, the unusual requirements of this district are. Mainly you will be required to use online forms provided by the Court, immediately rendering your bankruptcy software a sunk cost. All the bells and whistles you have with your programs (such as auto-filling of creditor address
information ,calculations, etc.): Gone. Ability to go back to your petition and change everything over to a Ch. 13: Gone. Ability to amend schedules by making changes to information you already have in your forms (with your exemption analysis, etc.): Gone. This is a real problem. I am only scratching the surface. Every other jurisdiction that I know of using e-filing allows you to use your existing bankruptcy software to create a .pdf file and just submit that. That would be fine, but for some reason--to my knowledge--this district has decided to be different and complicate things. > > So, I think that we need to immediately voice our opposition and concerns and, if necessary, form a committee to do the same.> > ***********************************************> Mark J. Markus> Law Office of Mark J. Markus> 11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403> Studio City, CA 91604-2652>
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OK. Mea culpa. I may have jumped the gun. When they first launched the pilot program a few months ago, that was not the case. Of course, one wonders why they need a training program if one can use their own software...
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Mark J. Markus
Law Office of Mark J. Markus
11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
Studio City, CA 91604-2652
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(818)509-1460 (fax)
e-mail: bklawr@bklaw.com
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----- Original Message -----
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:39 PM
Subject: [cdcbaa] Re: Mandatory e-filing
Mark,
One of my staff members went to efile training this morning and she
says that you can still use whatever software program you are
currently using--Best Case, BK Pro, etc--and then convert the forms
into pdf and then use Adobe Acrobat to send the forms to the Court.
Melissa Besecker
--- In cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com, "Mark J. Markus" wrote:
> As most of you have probably heard, e-filing for certain court
documents, including Chapter 7 petitions, are soon going to become
mandatory. While this in and of itself is not a bad thing, the
unusual requirements of this district are. Mainly you will be
required to use online forms provided by the Court, immediately
rendering your bankruptcy software a sunk cost. All the bells and
whistles you have with your programs (such as auto-filling of
creditor address information ,calculations, etc.): Gone. Ability to
go back to your petition and change everything over to a Ch. 13:
Gone. Ability to amend schedules by making changes to information
you already have in your forms (with your exemption analysis, etc.):
Gone. This is a real problem. I am only scratching the surface.
Every other jurisdiction that I know of using e-filing allows you to
use your existing bankruptcy software to create a .pdf file and just
submit that. That would be fine, but for some reason--to my
knowledge--this district has decided to be different and complicate
things.
>
> So, I think that we need to immediately voice our opposition and
concerns and, if necessary, form a committee to do the same.
>
> ***********************************************
> Mark J. Markus
> Law Office of Mark J. Markus
> 11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
> Studio City, CA 91604-2652
> (818)509-1173
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OK. Mea culpa. I may have jumped the
gun. When they first launched the pilot program a few months ago, that was
not the case. Of course, one wonders why they need a training program if
one can use their own software...

***********************************************Mark J. MarkusLaw
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Mark,
One of my staff members went to efile training this morning and she
says that you can still use whatever software program you are
currently using--Best Case, BK Pro, etc--and then convert the forms
into pdf and then use Adobe Acrobat to send the forms to the Court.
Melissa Besecker
> As most of you have probably heard, e-filing for certain court
documents, including Chapter 7 petitions, are soon going to become
mandatory. While this in and of itself is not a bad thing, the
unusual requirements of this district are. Mainly you will be
required to use online forms provided by the Court, immediately
rendering your bankruptcy software a sunk cost. All the bells and
whistles you have with your programs (such as auto-filling of
creditor address information ,calculations, etc.): Gone. Ability to
go back to your petition and change everything over to a Ch. 13:
Gone. Ability to amend schedules by making changes to information
you already have in your forms (with your exemption analysis, etc.):
Gone. This is a real problem. I am only scratching the surface.
Every other jurisdiction that I know of using e-filing allows you to
use your existing bankruptcy software to create a .pdf file and just
submit that. That would be fine, but for some reason--to my
knowledge--this district has decided to be different and complicate
things.
>
> So, I think that we need to immediately voice our opposition and
concerns and, if necessary, form a committee to do the same.
>
> ***********************************************
> Mark J. Markus
> Law Office of Mark J. Markus
> 11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
> Studio City, CA 91604-2652
> (818)509-1173
> (818)509-1460 (fax)
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Are you sure?? I know that some of our software allows for e-filing. I
cannot imagine that only this district would be so drastic, but then you
never know.
CS

Charles Shamash, Esq.
Caceres & Shamash, LLP
8383 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 1010
Beverly Hills, CA 90211-2409
Phone: (323) 852-1600 X 101
Facsimile: (323) 852-9009

Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:34 PM
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cdcbaa] Mandatory e-filing

As most of you have probably heard, e-filing for certain court
documents, including Chapter 7 petitions, are soon going to become
mandatory. While this in and of itself is not a bad thing, the unusual
requirements of this district are. Mainly you will be required to use
online forms provided by the Court, immediately rendering your
bankruptcy software a sunk cost. All the bells and whistles you have
with your programs (such as auto-filling of creditor address information
,calculations, etc.): Gone. Ability to go back to your petition and
change everything over to a Ch. 13: Gone. Ability to amend schedules
by making changes to information you already have in your forms (with
your exemption analysis, etc.): Gone. This is a real problem. I am
only scratching the surface. Every other jurisdiction that I know of
using e-filing allows you to use your existing bankruptcy software to
create a .pdf file and just submit that. That would be fine, but for
some reason--to my knowledge--this district has decided to be different
and complicate things.

So, I think that we need to immediately voice our opposition and
concerns and, if necessary, form a committee to do the same.

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Mark J. Markus
Law Office of Mark J. Markus
11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
Studio City, CA 91604-2652
(818)509-1173
(818)509-1460 (fax)
e-mail: bklawr@bklaw.com
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As most of you have probably heard, e-filing for certain court documents, including Chapter 7 petitions, are soon going to become mandatory. While this in and of itself is not a bad thing, the unusual requirements of this district are. Mainly you will be required to use online forms provided by the Court, immediately rendering your bankruptcy software a sunk cost. All the bells and whistles you have with your programs (such as auto-filling of creditor address information ,calculations, etc.): Gone. Ability to go back to your petition and change everything over to a Ch. 13: Gone. Ability to amend schedules by making changes to information you already have in your forms (with your exemption analysis, etc.): Gone. This is a real problem. I am only scratching the surface. Every other jurisdiction that I know of using e-filing allows you to use your existing bankruptcy software to create a .pdf file and just submit that. That would be fine, but for some reason--to my knowledge--this district has decided to be different and complicate things.
So, I think that we need to immediately voice our opposition and concerns and, if necessary, form a committee to do the same.
***********************************************
Mark J. Markus
Law Office of Mark J. Markus
11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
Studio City, CA 91604-2652
(818)509-1173
(818)509-1460 (fax)
e-mail: bklawr@bklaw.com
web: http://www.bklaw.com/
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As most of you have probably heard, e-filing for
certain court documents, including Chapter 7 petitions, are soon going to become
mandatory. While this in and of itself is not a bad thing, the unusual
requirements of this district are. Mainly you will be required to useonline forms provided by the Court, immediately rendering your bankruptcy
software a sunk cost. All the bells and whistles you have with your
programs (such as auto-filling of creditor address information ,calculations,
etc.): Gone. Ability to go back to your petition and change
everything over to a Ch. 13: Gone. Ability to amend schedules by
making changes to information you already have in your forms (with your
exemption analysis, etc.): Gone. This is a real problem. I am
only scratching the surface. Every other jurisdiction that I know of using
e-filing allows you to use your existing bankruptcy software to create a .pdf
file and just submit that. That would be fine, but for some
reason--to my knowledge--this district has decided to be different and
complicate things.

So, I think that we need to immediately voice our
opposition and concerns and, if necessary, form a committee to do the
same.

***********************************************Mark J. MarkusLaw
Office of Mark J. Markus11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403Studio City, CA91604-2652(818)509-1173(818)509-1460 (fax)e-mail: bklawr@bklaw.comweb:
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