Tough means test problem -- choice of household?
I would add the son and grandson plus their contribution. In re Plumb,
373 B.R. 429. The roommate/tenant as a household member is questionable.
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I have a client that passes the means test if she is a household of
one and her son's contribution is not included. If you put in the
household of 4 -- her son, grandson, tenant/roommate --- and the son's
contribution she fails by over $600. ISSUE: I am wondering if I
have the choice of putting her as a household of one in the means test
and not counting the son's contributions, which is not truly income,
at least in a tax sense.
She is outside the jurisdictional debt limits for 13 wants to file a
7. She is a consumer debtor because of her huge primary residence
mortgage as well as credit cards even though she also has considerable
non-consumer debt from a rental property in Las Vegas (LV) Both 2nd
mortgages are unsecured by dint of a lower property value than the
balance owed on the 1st mortgage, but I put the payments in the means
test anyway.
Even if we go with the larger household and we don't pass the means
test and there is a "presumption of abuse" against us, there is a case
out of Wisconsin called In re Kathern J. Mravik that held that since
she could continue her retirement payments in Chapter 13 and that
therefore creditors would get nothing in a 13 that it was not a
presumed abuse. In my client's case, she pays over $1,200 per month
in retirement, so she would pay nothing in a Chapter 13 (if she was
jurisdictionally allowed to file one).
It would be easier to file her as a one person household without the
son's contribution, but I have doubts as to whether that is proper.
Am I left to fight the abuse? Also, I know I could file a Chapter
11, but I don't want to go there.
Thank you
Steve
Law Offices of Steven B. Lever
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