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On Friday, March 1, 2019, 3:12:00 PM PST, Giovanni Orantes go@gobklaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
PC is joint tenant with brother in house in which PC does not live and for which PC never contributed a penny and only lent name to get loan. House has some equity -- net equity would be$13,000 to be split in 2 if shares are equal (as they are presumed to be in a true joint tenancy).oint tenancy can be rebuttedhere to show that it is just a co tenancy despite the current title and PC's share may be nothing. Would a beconsidered an avoidance transfer? Of course, the ultimate question is whether we can resist an attach by a Chapter 7 Trusteein a cost-efficient basis. That is, if the Trustee tries to threaten a sale, would it be too costly to prove it was alwaysa co-tenancy so that the Trusteewould not even bother in the first place.Would a transfer from her brother to both of them again but as co-tenants be the better way to pre-bankruptcy plan (as Judge Sotomayor says is permissible)?
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PC is joint tenant with brother in house in which PC does not live and for
which PC never contributed a penny and only lent name to get loan. House
has some equity -- net equity would be $13,000 to be split in 2 if shares
are equal (as they are presumed to be in a true joint tenancy). There is
case law saying and facts supporting that the presumption of joint tenancy
can be rebutted here to show that it is just a co tenancy despite the
current title and PC's share may be nothing. Would a quitclaim deed from
her as a joint tenant to herself as a co-tenant be considered an avoidance
transfer? Of course, the ultimate question is whether we can resist an
attach by a Chapter 7 Trustee in a cost-efficient basis. That is, if the
Trustee tries to threaten a sale, would it be too costly to prove it was
always a co-tenancy so that the Trustee would not even bother in the first
place. Would a transfer from her brother to both of them again but as
co-tenants be the better way to pre-bankruptcy plan (as Judge Sotomayor
says is permissible)?
WE DO NOT ACCEPT SERVICE BY EMAIL UNLESS WE HAVE AGREED TO ACCEPT IT IN
WRITING.
Giovanni Orantes, Esq.*
Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 2920
Los Angeles, CA 90010
Tel: (213) 389-4362
Fax: (877) 789-5776
e-mail: go@gobklaw.com
website: www.gobklaw.com
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Specialization*
*Board Certified - Business Bankruptcy Law - American Board of Certification
*Board Certified - Consumer Bankruptcy Law - American Board of Certification
Commercial Litigation
Estate Planning
Outside General Counsel
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PC is joint tenant with brother in house in which PC does not live and for which PC never contributed a penny and only lent name to get loan. House has some equity -- net equity would be$13,000 to be split in 2 if shares are equal (as they are presumed to be in a true joint tenancy). There is case law saying and facts supporting that the presumption of joint tenancy can be rebuttedhere to show that it is just a co tenancy despite the current title and PC's share may be nothing. Would aquitclaim deed from heras a joint tenant to herself as a co-tenant beconsidered an avoidance transfer? Of course, the ultimate question is whether we can resist an attach by a Chapter 7 Trusteein a cost-efficient basis. That is, if the Trustee tries to threaten a sale, would it be too costly to prove it was alwaysa co-tenancy so that the Trusteewould not even bother in the first place.tenants be the better way to pre-bankruptcy plan (as Judge Sotomayor says is permissible)?-- WE DO NOT ACCEPT SERVICE BY EMAIL UNLESS WE HAVE AGREED TO ACCEPT IT IN WRITING.Giovanni Orantes, Esq.*Orantes Law Firm, P.C.3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 2920Los Angeles, CA 90010Tel: (213) 389-4362Fax: (877) 789-5776e-mail: go@gobklaw.comwebsite: www.gobklaw.com*Certified Bankruptcy Specialist, State Bar of California, Board of Legal Specialization*Board Certified - Business Bankruptcy Law - American Board of Certification*Board Certified - Consumer Bankruptcy Law - American Board of CertificationCommercial LitigationEstate PlanningOutside General Counsel
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