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VZ Valuation hearing
Well this morning VZ took the bank's attorney to task for a few things, then told me that I didn't win either because I was valuing only one parcel and he thought that was unfair. He then told us that, in any event, unless we agreed on a value, he would order us to get a third appraiser who would report to him I guess. He said that the debtor's appraiser says what the debtor tells him to say and the bank's the same. He said no one will say that out loud but he will say it for the record.
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> Thanks.
>
> --- In cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com, Giovanni Orantes wrote:
> >
> > If you cannot resolve the valuation, Judge Zurzolo has told me that will not
> > referee a battle of the experts, but will instead have you and the defendant
> > hire an independent appraiser for him.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Jason Wallach > jwallach@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Unless you can exclude all of the evidence of value in the opposition, I
> > > don't see that he has any choice but to set an evidentiary hearing, and
> > > perhaps set up a discovery schedule, for this contested matter.
> > > I suppose that if the the valuation you want is incorporated into a plan,
> > > he could hold it off until the cramdown or confirmation hearing, but one
> > > time or another, it will be an evidentiary hearing.
> > > Jason
> > >
> > > On Nov 22, 2010, at 11:26 AM, jonhayes6666 wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I filed a Motion to Value property in a ch 11 in front of VZ. The bank
> > > filed an opposition. Will VZ simply set it for an evidentiary hearing?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Giovanni Orantes, Esq.
> > Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
> > 3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1980
> > Los Angeles, CA 90010
> > Tel: (213) 389-4362
> > Phone: (888) 619-8222 x101
> > Fax: (877) 789-5776
> > e-mail: go@
> > website: www.gobklaw.com
> >
> > WE ARE A "DEBT RELIEF AGENCY" AS DEFINED BY FEDERAL LAW.
> >
> > SERVING BAKERSFIELD, LOS ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY, RIVERSIDE, SAN BERNARDINO
> > AND SANTA BARBARA.
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Thanks.
>
> If you cannot resolve the valuation, Judge Zurzolo has told me that will not
> referee a battle of the experts, but will instead have you and the defendant
> hire an independent appraiser for him.
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Jason Wallach jwallach@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Unless you can exclude all of the evidence of value in the opposition, I
> > don't see that he has any choice but to set an evidentiary hearing, and
> > perhaps set up a discovery schedule, for this contested matter.
> > I suppose that if the the valuation you want is incorporated into a plan,
> > he could hold it off until the cramdown or confirmation hearing, but one
> > time or another, it will be an evidentiary hearing.
> > Jason
> >
> > On Nov 22, 2010, at 11:26 AM, jonhayes6666 wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I filed a Motion to Value property in a ch 11 in front of VZ. The bank
> > filed an opposition. Will VZ simply set it for an evidentiary hearing?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Giovanni Orantes, Esq.
> Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
> 3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1980
> Los Angeles, CA 90010
> Tel: (213) 389-4362
> Phone: (888) 619-8222 x101
> Fax: (877) 789-5776
> e-mail: go@...
> website: www.gobklaw.com
>
> WE ARE A "DEBT RELIEF AGENCY" AS DEFINED BY FEDERAL LAW.
>
> SERVING BAKERSFIELD, LOS ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY, RIVERSIDE, SAN BERNARDINO
> AND SANTA BARBARA.
>
> Note: The information contained in this e-mail message is confidential
> information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named. If
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> is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error,
> please immediately notify us by telephone or e-mail and delete the original
> e-mail at (213) 389-4362 or (888) 619-8222.
>
> IRS Circular 230 Disclosure: In order to comply with requirements imposed by
> the Internal Revenue Service, we inform you that any U.S. tax advice
> contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended
> to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding penalties
> under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing, or
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>
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If you cannot resolve the valuation, Judge Zurzolo has told me that will not
referee a battle of the experts, but will instead have you and the defendant
hire an independent appraiser for him.
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Jason Wallach wrote:
>
>
> Unless you can exclude all of the evidence of value in the opposition, I
> don't see that he has any choice but to set an evidentiary hearing, and
> perhaps set up a discovery schedule, for this contested matter.
> I suppose that if the the valuation you want is incorporated into a plan,
> he could hold it off until the cramdown or confirmation hearing, but one
> time or another, it will be an evidentiary hearing.
> Jason
>
> On Nov 22, 2010, at 11:26 AM, jonhayes6666 wrote:
>
>
>
> I filed a Motion to Value property in a ch 11 in front of VZ. The bank
> filed an opposition. Will VZ simply set it for an evidentiary hearing?
>
>
>
>
Giovanni Orantes, Esq.
Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1980
Los Angeles, CA 90010
Tel: (213) 389-4362
Phone: (888) 619-8222 x101
Fax: (877) 789-5776
e-mail: go@gobklaw.com
website: www.gobklaw.com
WE ARE A "DEBT RELIEF AGENCY" AS DEFINED BY FEDERAL LAW.
SERVING BAKERSFIELD, LOS ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY, RIVERSIDE, SAN BERNARDINO
AND SANTA BARBARA.
Note: The information contained in this e-mail message is confidential
information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named. If
the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent
responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby
notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication
is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error,
please immediately notify us by telephone or e-mail and delete the original
e-mail at (213) 389-4362 or (888) 619-8222.
IRS Circular 230 Disclosure: In order to comply with requirements imposed by
the Internal Revenue Service, we inform you that any U.S. tax advice
contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended
to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding penalties
under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing, or
recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein.
If you cannot resolve the valuation, JudgeZurzolo has told me that will not refereea battle of the experts, but will instead have you and the defendant hire an independent appraiser for him.
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Jason Wallach <jwallach@gladstonemichel.com> wrote:
Unless you can exclude all of the evidence of value in the opposition, I don't see that he has any choice but to set an evidentiary hearing, and perhaps set up a discovery schedule, for this contested matter.
I suppose that if the the valuation you want is incorporated into a plan, he could hold it off until the cramdown or confirmation hearing, but one time or another, it will be an evidentiary hearing.
Jason
On Nov 22, 2010, at 11:26 AM, jonhayes6666 wrote:
I filed a Motion to Value property in a ch 11 in front of VZ. The bank filed an opposition. Will VZ simply set it for an evidentiary hearing?
-- Giovanni Orantes, Esq. Orantes Law Firm, P.C.3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1980Los Angeles, CA 90010
Tel: (213) 389-4362Phone: (888) 619-8222 x101Fax: (877) 789-5776e-mail: go@gobklaw.comwebsite: www.gobklaw.comWE ARE A "DEBT RELIEF AGENCY" AS DEFINED BY FEDERAL LAW.
SERVING BAKERSFIELD, LOS ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY, RIVERSIDE, SAN BERNARDINO AND SANTA BARBARA.Note: The information contained in this e-mail message is confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by telephone or e-mail and delete the original e-mail at (213) 389-4362 or (888) 619-8222.
IRS Circular 230 Disclosure: In order to comply with requirements imposed by the Internal Revenue Service, we inform you that any U.S. tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing, or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein.
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Unless you can exclude all of the evidence of value in the opposition, I don't see that he has any choice but to set an evidentiary hearing, and perhaps set up a discovery schedule, for this contested matter.
I suppose that if the the valuation you want is incorporated into a plan, he could hold it off until the cramdown or confirmation hearing, but one time or another, it will be an evidentiary hearing.
Jason
On Nov 22, 2010, at 11:26 AM, jonhayes6666 wrote:
> I filed a Motion to Value property in a ch 11 in front of VZ. The bank filed an opposition. Will VZ simply set it for an evidentiary hearing?
>
>
charsetndows-1252
Unless you can exclude all of the evidence of value in the opposition, I don't see that he has any choice but to set an evidentiary hearing, and perhaps set up a discovery schedule, for this contested matter.I suppose that if the the valuation you want is incorporated into a plan, he could hold it off until the cramdown or confirmation hearing, but one time or another, it will be an evidentiary hearing.JasonOn Nov 22, 2010, at 11:26 AM, jonhayes6666 wrote:
I filed a Motion to Value property in a ch 11 in front of VZ. The bank filed an opposition. Will VZ simply set it for an evidentiary hearing?
The post was migrated from Yahoo.