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Emergency Chapter 11 Filing
Run. Just run. Run away when people want to give you a $3,000 retainer for
an 11.
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Mark J. Markus wrote:
> Yea, really. $30k minimum if it ISN'T an emergency filing. $3,000
> doesn't get through the initial consults in some Ch. 11 cases.
>
> *************************
> Mark J. Markus
> Law Office of Mark J. Markus
> 11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
> Studio City, CA 91604-2652
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> On 7/8/2010 5:42 PM, David A. Tilem wrote:
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> Good luck with a $3k retainer. Tell client that $30k is more likely.
>
>
> *David A. Tilem*
> Certified Bankruptcy Specialist** *
> Law Offices of David A. Tilem (a debt relief agency)
> 206 N. Jackson Street, #201, Glendale, CA 91206
> Tel: 818-507-6000 Fax: 818-507-6800
>
> * Bankruptcy specialist cert. by State Bar of CA Bd of Legal
> Specialization.
> Business bankruptcy specialist cert. by Amer. Bd. of Certification
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Sina Maghsoudi
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:38 PM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [cdcbaa] Emergency Chapter 11 Filing
>
>
> Is anyone interested and available to work on an emergency Chapter 11. Must
> be filed before Monday trustee sale. Income properties enough for
> mortgage and legal fees but behind. Client only has 3k available for
> retainer.
>
>
> Please email or call me ASAP.
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/8/10, Patrick Green
> * wrote:
>
>
> Subject: RE: [cdcbaa] Re: professional behavior
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 2:30 PM
>
>
>
> Many concerns about judges, trustees, UST staff or other members of the
> BK community are appropriate for Listserve discussion, if they are presented
> in what is often described as a professional manner. As an example, I will
> elevate Dennis to the bench for sake of discussion.
>
>
>
> Example 1.
>
>
>
> I had a matter with Judge Mick and once again he pulled the rug out from
> under my client. As usual he didnt read the pleading, he didn> timely and he didnt give a reason for denying my petition-he was probably
> too busy surfing. Fortunately I didnt have to be in his courtroom to hear
> him be his usual obnoxious self (the guy has no social skills-he reminds me
> of a junk yard dog). And his rant about the damn hyphens-the guy must be a
> frustrated English teacher. I cant wait till he comes up for
> re-appointment. We should ream him when the time comes. Maybe we should put
> a fund together to pay for him to get his teaching credential so he can be
> his usual arbitrary and capricious jerk ass self with someone else besides
> our clients.
>
>
>
> Example 2
>
>
>
> I had a bad outcome with Judge Mc again. I need some advice in how to
> help my client who got what I think is an extremely unjust result. I> quite sure he didnt read the pleading, he didnt rule timely and he didnt
> give a reason for denying my petition. The facts are as follows
> slfjlasjdfljasldkfjalskjflasjfjslkdjflksd. I am really frustrated with the
> results that my clients get in his courtroom. Please either post your
> suggestions to the list or contact me off list. TIA
>
>
>
> The first one should have been a phone call to a trusted colleague to vent
> some steam-probably with many additional colorful adjectives (but without
> the Mick appellation). After the steam is gone, it is much easier to then
> post to the list serve like the second example. Any campaign to keep a
> judge from reappointment can be effectively done off list. Youll get the
> same result and their will nothing there to come back and bite you or cdcbaa
> in the butt.
>
>
>
> If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me.
>
>
>
> Pat
>
>
>
> Patrick T. Green, Esq.
>
> Fitzgerald & Green
>
> Attorneys at Law
>
> 1010 E. Union Street
>
> Suite 206
>
> Pasadena, CA 91106
>
> Tel: 626-449-8433
>
> Fax: 626-449-0565
>
> pat@fitzgreenlaw.com
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Law Offices of Jonathan Leventhal
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:25 PM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [cdcbaa] Re: professional behavior
>
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>
> My two cents;
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>
>
> This is from a person who has very little hair left.
>
>
>
> I think a professional forum is the place to discuss matters that can
> assist our clients. HOWEVER, we are officers of the court and are expected
> to act accordingly. As a practical matter, it does not help yourself or
> your clients to speak improperly of anyone, from clerk to Judge.
>
>
>
> I treat everyone with respect and professionalism. Not only is it the
> correct thing to do but it is a requirement of our profession.
>
>
>
> Jonathan Leventhal
>
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> [image: My Card]
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> Jonathan D. Leventhal, Esq.
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> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Dennis
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:10 PM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [cdcbaa] Re: professional behavior
>
>
>
> Because this is a public forum for a professional association. We grey
> hairs don't want our reputations tainted by individual attorney's
> indescretions. And, btw, we can kick you off the listserve for
> nonprofessional behavior.
>
>
>
> So be professional or you may begone.
>
>
>
> Dennis
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2010, at 10:37 AM, "shawnswhite"
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Yea, really. $30k minimum if it ISN'T an emergency filing.
$3,000 doesn't get through the initial consults in some Ch. 11 cases.
*************************
Mark J. Markus
Law Office of Mark J. Markus
11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
Studio City, CA 91604-2652
(818)509-1173 (818)509-1460 (fax)
web: http://www.bklaw.com/
This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency (see what this means at http://bklaw.com/bankruptcy-blog/2008/0 ... efinition/)
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On 7/8/2010 5:42 PM, David A. Tilem wrote:
>
>
> Good luck with a $3k retainer. Tell client that $30k is more likely.
> *David A. Tilem*
> Certified Bankruptcy Specialist**^*+ **
> Law Offices of David A. Tilem (a debt relief agency)
> 206 N. Jackson Street, #201, Glendale, CA 91206
> Tel: 818-507-6000 Fax: 818-507-6800
> * Bankruptcy specialist cert. by State Bar of CA Bd of Legal
> Specialization.
> + Business bankruptcy specialist cert. by Amer. Bd. of Certification
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Sina Maghsoudi
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:38 PM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [cdcbaa] Emergency Chapter 11 Filing
>
> Is anyone interested and available to work on an emergency Chapter
> 11. Must be filed before Monday trustee sale. Income properties
> enough for mortgage and legal fees but behind. Client only has 3k
> available for retainer.
> Please email or call me ASAP.
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/8/10, Patrick Green //* wrote:
>
>
> Subject: RE: [cdcbaa] Re: professional behavior
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 2:30 PM
>
>
>
> Many concerns about judges, trustees, UST staff or other
> members of the BK community are appropriate for Listserve
> discussion, if they are presented in what is often described
> as a professional manner. As an example, I will elevate
> Dennis to the bench for sake of discussion.
>
> Example 1.
>
> " I had a matter with Judge Mick and once again he pulled the
> rug out from under my client. As usual he didn't read the
> pleading, he didn't rule timely and he didn't give a reason
> for denying my petition-he was probably too busy surfing.
> Fortunately I didn't have to be in his courtroom to hear him
> be his usual obnoxious self (the guy has no social skills-he
> reminds me of a junk yard dog). And his rant about the damn
> hyphens-the guy must be a frustrated English teacher. I can't
> wait till he comes up for re-appointment. We should ream him
> when the time comes. Maybe we should put a fund together to
> pay for him to get his teaching credential so he can be his
> usual arbitrary and capricious jerk ass self with someone else
> besides our clients. "
>
> Example 2
>
> " I had a bad outcome with Judge Mc again. I need some advice
> in how to help my client who got what I think is an extremely
> unjust result. I'm quite sure he didn't read the pleading, he
> didn't rule timely and he didn't give a reason for denying my
> petition. The facts are as follows
> slfjlasjdfljasldkfjalskjflasjfjslkdjflksd. I am really
> frustrated with the results that my clients get in his
> courtroom. Please either post your suggestions to the list or
> contact me off list. TIA"
>
> The first one should have been a phone call to a trusted
> colleague to vent some steam-probably with many additional
> colorful adjectives (but without the Mick appellation). After
> the steam is gone, it is much easier to then post to the list
> serve like the second example. Any campaign to keep a judge
> from reappointment can be effectively done off list. You'll
> get the same result and their will nothing there to come back
> and bite you or cdcbaa in the butt.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me.
>
> Pat
>
> Patrick T. Green, Esq.
>
> Fitzgerald & Green
>
> Attorneys at Law
>
> 1010 E. Union Street
>
> Suite 206
>
> Pasadena, CA 91106
>
> Tel: 626-449-8433
>
> Fax: 626-449-0565
>
> pat@fitzgreenlaw.com
>
> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Law Offices of Jonathan Leventhal
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:25 PM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [cdcbaa] Re: professional behavior
>
> My two cents;
>
> This is from a person who has very little hair left.
>
> I think a professional forum is the place to discuss matters
> that can assist our clients. HOWEVER, we are officers of the
> court and are expected to act accordingly. As a practical
> matter, it does not help yourself or your clients to speak
> improperly of anyone, from clerk to Judge.
>
> I treat everyone with respect and professionalism. Not only
> is it the correct thing to do but it is a requirement of our
> profession.
>
> Jonathan Leventhal
>
> My Card
>
> Jonathan D. Leventhal, Esq.
>
> This email and any attachments thereto may contain private,
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> contact the sender immediately and permanently delete the
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> thereto.
>
> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Dennis
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:10 PM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [cdcbaa] Re: professional behavior
>
> Because this is a public forum for a professional association.
> We grey hairs don't want our reputations tainted by
> individual attorney's indescretions. And, btw, we can kick
> you off the listserve for nonprofessional behavior.
>
> So be professional or you may begone.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2010, at 10:37 AM, "shawnswhite"
> >
> wrote:
>
> What bashing? An attorney simply commented that certain
> policies of a certain judge, polices within that judges
> discretion, were having an adverse impact on his clients.
> He could probably prove it if he had to. Why are judges
> immune to criticism outside of the courtroom? Especially
> criticism directly related to their actions in very public
> courtrooms? Is their a local rule against free speech?
>
> --- In cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> "James T. King" wrote:
> >
> > Can we please put a stop to this bashing? This is
> totally inappropriate
> > for this list serve. The same would be true of trustees.
> >
> >
> >
>
> [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> ]
> On Behalf
> > Of Giovanni Orantes
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:39 PM
> > To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Judge Ellen Carroll's ReApp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You're entitled to your opinion even if you're wrong.
> That "some"
> > people have been living beyond their means is irrelevant
> for those who
> > have lost their jobs in this economic depression and
> surprisingly found
> > themselves unable to afford the mortgages they once were
> able to pay. I
> > know there have been worse judges in the past and Santa
> Barbara is ruled
> > by such a judge, but I choose to be optimistic and hope
> we get a
> > reasonable one as replacement.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 5:26 PM, warren brown
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Some clients don't have the money because they have been
> living beyond
> > their means for too long. The word "capricious" denotes
> whimsy or
> > unpredictability. The judge to whom you refer has
> neither of those
> > characteristics. She is quite predictable. She simply
> has a much higher
> > standard of personal responsibility than most. It is
> quite inconvenient
> > at times, but there have been a couple over the years
> who were much
> > worse.
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> > Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 15:54:46 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Judge Ellen Carroll's ReApp
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey, I can deal with individual judges, but some clients
> don't have the
> > money to do so. Since you can affect the reapp of a
> judge, part of
> > being a lawyer consists of chiming in with comments when
> a judge
> > adversely impacts too many people capriciously.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 2:27 PM, warren brown
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > How long will you be a lawyer? Learn to deal with
> individual judges and
> > stop whining
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 10:13:18 -0700
> >
> >
> > Subject: [cdcbaa] Judge Ellen Carroll's ReApp
> >
> >
> >
> > When is Judge Carroll up for reapp? She is hurting many
> consumers with
> > her idiosyncratic policies.
> >
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Good luck with a $3k retainer. Tell client that $30k is more likely.
David A. Tilem
Certified Bankruptcy Specialist*
Law Offices of David A. Tilem (a debt relief agency)
206 N. Jackson Street, #201, Glendale, CA 91206
Tel: 818-507-6000 Fax: 818-507-6800
* Bankruptcy specialist cert. by State Bar of CA Bd of Legal
Specialization.
Sina Maghsoudi
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:38 PM
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cdcbaa] Emergency Chapter 11 Filing
Is anyone interested and available to work on an emergency Chapter 11. Must
be filed before Monday trustee sale. Income properties enough for mortgage
and legal fees but behind. Client only has 3k available for retainer.
Please email or call me ASAP.
The post was migrated from Yahoo.
Is anyone interested and available to work on an emergency Chapter 11. Must be filed before Monday trustee sale. Income propertiesenough for mortgage and legal feesbut behind. Client only has 3k available for retainer.
Please email or call me ASAP.
The post was migrated from Yahoo.