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Eligibility and jurisdiction are not necessarily the same thing.
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Mark J. Markus
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I recall someone else suggesting that at one time. But how can sec. 109 NOT
be jurisdictional? "Who may be a debtor"? If you don't meet the 109
criteria, then one cannot be a debtor under that chapter. I don't see how
that requires an objection to be enforced.
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Judge Tighe recently suggested to me that those just over the limit should
still file a C13 to see if anyone objects. She said the debt limits are NOT
jurisdictional. I found her comments VERY surprising.
David A. Tilem
Certified Bankruptcy Specialist*
Law Offices of David A. Tilem (a debt relief agency)
206 N. Jackson Street, #201, Glendale, CA 91206
Tel: 818-507-6000 Fax: 818-507-6800
* Bankruptcy specialist cert. by State Bar of CA Bd of Legal
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Amy Clark
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:05 PM
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and you did not know this when you signed them up?
It's the unsecured debt limit that is pushing these clients over
(student loans and a huge debt to one of their parents) and due to
turning in their leased car and getting a (permanent) loan
modification, they are no longer eligible for a 7.
Would you refund the "non-refundable" retainer? I am certainly not
going to file an 11, don't even think it is a good vehicle for them as
they are only $15,000 over unsecured debt limit.
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Judge Tighe recently
suggested to me that those just over the limit should still file a C13 to see if
anyone objects. She said the debt limits are NOT jurisdictional. I
found her comments VERY surprising.


David A.
Tilem
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