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Shannon:
Most cases don't allow a second auto stay.
So, I would not move to vacate discharge
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> On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Shannon Doyle sdoyle@ebankruptcyassistants.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> Ok, so the stay is not in effect but the bankruptcy court still has jurisdiction to rule on a motion to avoid lien (discharge issued but case still open). So does the pending motion to avoid lien prevent the lien creditor from going to sale? These facts have a lien creditor with a scheduled sheriffs sale two weeks after the motion to avoid lien hearing. We anticipate the motion to avoid lien to be contested and likely continued beyond the sale date which of course we dont want to happen.
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Most cases don't allow a second auto stay.DSent from my iPhoneOn Apr 20, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Shannon Doyle sdoyle@ebankruptcyassistants.com [cdcbaa] <cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Ok, so the stay is not in effect but the bankruptcy court still has jurisdiction to rule on a motion to avoid lien (discharge issued but case still open). So does the pending
motion to avoid lien prevent the lien creditor from going to sale? These facts have a lien creditor with a scheduled sheriffs sale two weeks after the motion to avoid lien hearing. We anticipate the motion to avoid lien to be contested and likely continued
beyond the sale date which of course we dont want to happen.

Does it make sense to vacate the discharge for purposes of reinstating the stay until the motion to avoid lien is resolved?


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Under Section 362(c)(1), the stay on estate assets continues until the case
is closed unless the property stops being an estate asset, such as through
the effect of an exemption or if debtor has been dismissed (since 349
revests the property in the debtor, i.e., it is no longer estate
property). Otherwise, I do not know that vacating the discharge would
reimpose the stay. My recollection is that case law states that once the
stay is gone, it can only be reimposed by adversary proceeding.
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Shannon Doyle
sdoyle@ebankruptcyassistants.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> Ok, so the stay is not in effect but the bankruptcy court still has
> jurisdiction to rule on a motion to avoid lien (discharge issued but case
> still open). So does the pending motion to avoid lien prevent the lien
> creditor from going to sale? These facts have a lien creditor with a
> scheduled sheriffs sale two weeks after the motion to avoid lien hearing.
> We anticipate the motion to avoid lien to be contested and likely continued
> beyond the sale date which of course we dont want to happen.
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> Does it make sense to vacate the discharge for purposes of reinstating the
> stay until the motion to avoid lien is resolved?
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Under Section 362(c)(1), the stay on estate assets continues until the case is closed unless the property stops being an estate asset, such as through the effect of an exemption or if debtor has been dismissed (since 349 revests the property in the debtor, i.e., it is no longer estate property). Otherwise, I do not know that vacating the discharge would reimpose the stay. My recollection is that case law states that once the stay is gone, it can only be reimposed by adversary proceeding.On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Shannon Doyle sdoyle@ebankruptcyassistants.com [cdcbaa] <cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Ok, so the stay is not in effect but the bankruptcy court still has jurisdiction to rule on a motion to avoid lien (discharge issued but case still open). So does the pending
motion to avoid lien prevent the lien creditor from going to sale? These facts have a lien creditor with a scheduled sheriffs sale two weeks after the motion to avoid lien hearing. We anticipate the motion to avoid lien to be contested and likely continued
beyond the sale date which of course we dont want to happen.
Does it make sense to vacate the discharge for purposes of reinstating the stay until the motion to avoid lien is resolved?
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It remains in effect as to actions against property of the estate
until the case is closed. See 362(c).
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No. the stay is lifted after discharge.
best regards
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See 362(c)
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The automatic stay does not prohibit actions against non debtors except
in unusual circumstances where there is such identity between debtor
and non debtor that a judgment against the non debtor is effectively a
judgment against debtor, like absolute indemnity, or an immediate
adverse economic consequence for debtor's estate.
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message dated 8/5/2010 8:14:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
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After being sued by Plaintiff in state court, Debtor filed chapter 7
bankruptcy, and state court suit was stayed. Must Plaintiff seek
relief from stay before filing an amended complaint in state court
suit naming additional defendants?
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The automatic stay does not prohibit actions against
non debtors except
in unusual circumstances where there is such identity
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and non debtor that a judgment against the non debtor
is effectively a
judgment against debtor, like absolute indemnity, or
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After being sued by Plaintiff in state court, Debtor filed chapter
7bankruptcy, and state court suit was stayed. Must Plaintiff
seekrelief from stay before filing an amended complaint in state
courtsuit naming additional defendants?-- Alik Segal
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I agree with David.
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I agree with David.
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> and the amended complaint is not served on the Debtor, I don't see how this is
> any different than a substitution of a named party for a Doe
> Defendant.
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> David A.
> Tilem
> Certified Bankruptcy
> Specialist*
> Law Offices
> of David A. Tilem (a debt relief agency)
> 206 N.
> Jackson Street, #201, Glendale, CA 91206
> Tel: 818-507-6000 Fax:
> 818-507-6800
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> Bankruptcy specialist cert. by State Bar of CA Bd of Legal Specialization.
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> Business bankruptcy specialist cert. by Amer. Bd. of
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> McGoldrick
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:09 PM
> To:
> cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Automatic
> Stay
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Giovanni Orantes, Esq.
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3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1980
Los Angeles, CA 90010
Tel: (213) 389-4362
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