Fwd: Ch. 20 (or 18) lien strips and paying discharged

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I need the 11 to reamortize the loan over 30 years to get a lower
monthly payment. That can't be done in a 13 (at least not the way I
read it).
I haven't fully read the ROSA case yet, but it seems like the
allusion to Chapter 11 is to 1111(b) election, which is quite
different than mandating the unsecured portion be treated as an
allowed claim in the Plan.
I can negotiate with the secured creditor to deal with the 1111(b)
possibility, but it's a different story if he APR is implicated
because that affects all unsecured creditors.
On 10/26/2016 1:00 PM, Giovanni Orantes go@gobklaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> Maybe a 13 would suffice since the debt limits don't apply to
> discharged debt in a 13 per the same case or another note in Judge
> Bason's procedures.
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Thanks. That is so NOT what I wanted to hear...
On 10/26/2016 12:19 PM, Giovanni Orantes go@gobklaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> Q. Chapter "20" (ch.7 case followed by ch.13). Judge Bason has
> held that a creditor holding a stripped down or stripped off claim
> is not entitled to share in distributions to unsecured creditors
> when the in personam liability has been discharged in a prior
> chapter 7 case. See In re Rosa, 521 B.R. 337 (Bankr. N.D. Cal. 2014).
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> Note that the case itself explains that you likely would have to
> pay in an 11 while you would not have to pay in a 13.
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