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Erik is correct, and this is a nice reminder that debtors can reduce their deductions for November and December so there will be no return left from the 2015 return.
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> I do this regularly each January 2nd. Wisconsin allows debtors to claim either state or federal exemptions. If they claim federal and have enough wildcard remaining available to cover the projected refund, I dont pursue it as the Court will allow them to amend to claim the refund. However, if they have no wildcard remaining, or if they use state exemptions which has no provisions for a tax refund to be exempt, I pursue them. I wait until January 2nd to do anything because some sleeping attorneys wait up if I do anything before the last paycheck and advise the debtor to change their withholding status with their employer so as to diminish or eliminate the amount of potential refund.
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> On January 2nd I do the tax intercept as well as file a Motion for Turnover of the debtors tax returns and turnover of the tax refund for the prior year for both state and federal. Our state does not accept tax intercepts, so the turnover Motion as to the state refund is the only way for me to reach it.
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> I am review cases for hearings next week. In doing so I notice fair number of debtors who got substantial income tax refunds on the 2014 tax returns. From pay advices I can see they are earning about the same as they did in 2014. All things being equal it is likely that they will be entitled to a similarly large income tax refund for 2015.
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> The cases I am reviewed were all filed in late September. In no case have the debtors asserted an exemption for the 2015 tax refunds. I believe that the estate is entitled to a pro rata share of the 2015 tax refunds. Does it make sense to file a tax intercept form with the IRS to grab the estates share of the refunds? Is anyone else doing this?
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> New Jersey uses Federal exemptions. If the debtors have exhausted their Wildcard exemption this seems like a slam dunk.
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I know we have discussed this but here is the thread right off the NABT
listserv. Lots of Tees have chimed in that they do this regularly
M. Erik Clark
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100 N. Barranca Street, Suite 250
West Covina, CA 91791
www.BorowitzClark.com
Office: (626) 332-8600
Fax: (626) 332-8644
Board Certified in Consumer Bankruptcy
American Board of Certification
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J. Rameker
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 04, 2015 1:54 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [nabtnews] 2015 TAX REFUNDS
John:
I do this regularly each January 2nd. Wisconsin allows debtors to claim
either state or federal exemptions. If they claim federal and have enough
wildcard remaining available to cover the projected refund, I dont pursue
it as the Court will allow them to amend to claim the refund. However, if
they have no wildcard remaining, or if they use state exemptions which has
no provisions for a tax refund to be exempt, I pursue them. I wait until
January 2nd to do anything because some sleeping attorneys wait up if I do
anything before the last paycheck and advise the debtor to change their
withholding status with their employer so as to diminish or eliminate the
amount of potential refund.
On January 2nd I do the tax intercept as well as file a Motion for Turnover
of the debtors tax returns and turnover of the tax refund for the prior
year for both state and federal. Our state does not accept tax intercepts,
so the turnover Motion as to the state refund is the only way for me to
reach it.
Bill
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I am review cases for hearings next week. In doing so I notice fair number
of debtors who got substantial income tax refunds on the 2014 tax returns.
From pay advices I can see they are earning about the same as they did in
2014. All things being equal it is likely that they will be entitled to a
similarly large income tax refund for 2015.
The cases I am reviewed were all filed in late September. In no case have
the debtors asserted an exemption for the 2015 tax refunds. I believe that
the estate is entitled to a pro rata share of the 2015 tax refunds. Does
it make sense to file a tax intercept form with the IRS to grab the
estates share of the refunds? Is anyone else doing this?
New Jersey uses Federal exemptions. If the debtors have exhausted their
John Hargrave,
Barrington, NJ
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