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As much as I might wish for a different conclusion, my thought is that theproperty was acquired knowing that the lien would attach. Wouldn't this
antedate any subsequent claim for exemption? Or, should it matter, since we
choose homestead exemptions all the time in our cases and avoid judicial liens
that attached prior to the filing. I guess what I'm thinking is that it seems
that the courts are making a policy statement when the incohate lien predates
the acquisition of the property, because, otherwise, it really should not make a
difference as to the mechanism for avoidance
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Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Avoiding lien under 522f where property acquired after
lien: Farrey v. Sanderfoot
You misread the facts Jim. The lien was recorded. Then debtor purchased
the real estate. Then debtor filed Chapter 7. Each one several years
apart.
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On 11/30/2011 7:28 AM, James T. King wrote:
How is the creditor going to collect on a discharged debt? Howcan a lien on a discharged debt affix to after acquired property
without violating the discharge provisions of the Discharge order
>Fresh Start come to mind?
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>From:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com] On >Behalf Of Mark J. Markus
>Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:09 PM
>To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [cdcbaa] Avoiding lien under 522f where property>acquired after lien: Farrey v. Sanderfoot
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>Judgment Debtor acquires real estate several years after the
>judgment is recorded. Debtor files a Chapter 7 case and
>wished to avoid the lien under 522(f) and the mathematical
>test would allow it.
>
>In re Pederson, 230 BR 158 (9th Cir BAP 1999). following>Farrey vs. Sanderfoot , 500 U.S. 291 (1991), held that the
>lien "fixes" to the debtor's interest in the property
>simultaneously with the purchase of the property and therefore
>debtor did not own the property BEFORE the lien affixed and,
>therefore, it cannot be avoided.
>
>There is a New Mexico case (In re Pacheco, 342 BR 352 (Bankr.
>N.M. 2006)) which holds the opposite, distinguishing both
>Farrey and Pederson, and following the recommendation set
>forth in Colliers that the temporal fixing of the lien is
>irrelevant and the lien should be avoidable (assuming the
>mathematics otherwise allow it).
>
>Has anyone had any success avoiding a lien under these facts
>in our district?
>
>
>Thanks all...
>
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