"couple" questions
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Pat is always "on vacation", but we love him anyway...........
David A. Tilem
Certified Bankruptcy Specialist*
Law Offices of David A. Tilem (a debt relief agency)
206 N. Jackson Street, #201, Glendale, CA 91206
Tel: 818-507-6000 Fax: 818-507-6800
* Bankruptcy specialist cert. by State Bar of CA Bd of Legal Specialization.
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atrick Green
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 10:31 AM
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [cdcbaa] "couple" questions
Jason:
For those of us who have lived the majority of our adult lives w/out the internet, looking on Wikipedia for the answers to our trivia questions is not kosher.
BTW: I once had a Posslq named Pospisil, but I doubt Wikipedia cant tell you how to pronounce her name.
If you have any questions or concerns, please do not contact me as I am on vacation.
Pat
Patrick T. Green, Esq.
Fitzgerald & Green
Attorneys at Law
1010 E. Union Street
Suite 206
Pasadena, CA 91106
Tel: 626-449-8433
Fax: 626-449-0565
pat@fitzgreenlaw.com
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Jason:
For those of us who have lived the majority of our adult lives w/out the internet, looking on Wikipedia for the answers to our trivia questions is not kosher.
BTW: I once had a Posslq named Pospisil, but I doubt Wikipedia cant tell you how to pronounce her name.
If you have any questions or concerns, please do not contact me as I am on vacation.
Pat
Patrick T. Green, Esq.
Fitzgerald & Green
Attorneys at Law
1010 E. Union Street
Suite 206
Pasadena, CA 91106
Tel: 626-449-8433
Fax: 626-449-0565
pat@fitzgreenlaw.com
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I had always thought it was POSSSLQ, a person of the opposite or same sex
sharing living quarters. Im glad I checked Wikipedia before correcting
you.
- John D. Faucher
On 10/14/10 4:01 PM, "David Tilem" wrote:
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> Jason:
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> There are cases which support my response, though I can't cite chapter and
> verse by memory.
>
> Hope you all enjoyed my POSSLQ
>
>
> David A. Tilem
> Certified Bankruptcy Specialist*
> Law Offices of David A. Tilem (a debt relief agency)
> 206 N. Jackson Street, #201, Glendale, CA 91206
> Tel: 818-507-6000 Fax: 818-507-6800
>
> * Bankruptcy specialist cert. by State Bar of CA Bd of Legal Specialization.
> Business bankruptcy specialist cert. by Amer. Bd. of Certification
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Jason Wallach
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:49 AM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] "couple" questions
>
>
> Dave: Thanks for that. I assume that is a thought-out response,not off the
> cuff. "Defense of Marriage Act" I will have to check, I thought it might be
> relevant.
> I knew what posslq means, but the derivation isn't a secret, see Wikipedia
> below.
> Thanks again.
> Jason
> POSSLQ
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> POSSLQ (pronounced /pslkju/
> ) is an abbreviation
> (or acronym ) for "Persons of Opposite
> Sex Sharing Living Quarters," a term coined in the late 1970s by the United
> States Census Bureau
> as part of an
> effort to more accurately gauge the prevalence of cohabitation
> in American
> households.
> After the 1980 Census
> , the term gained
> currency in the wider culture for a time. CBS
> commentator Charles Osgood
> composed a verse which includes
> There's nothing that I wouldn't do If you would be my POSSLQ You live with me
> and I with you, And you will be my POSSLQ. I'll be your friend and so much
> more; That's what a POSSLQ is for.
> Elliot Sperber, the writer of The Hartford Courant
> 's weekly cryptogram
> , invented a cryptogram that (when
> solved) said:
> "Roses are Red, Violets are Blue, Won't you be my POSSLQ?"
> After demographers observed the increasing frequency of cohabitation over the
> 1980s, the Census Bureau began directly asking respondents to their major
> surveys whether they were "unmarried partners," thus making obsolete the old
> method of counting cohabitors, which involved a series of assumptions about
> "Persons of Opposite Sex Sharing Living Quarters." The category "unmarried
> partner" first appeared in the 1990 Census
> , and was incorporated into the
> monthly Current Population Survey
> starting in 1995. By
> the late 1990s, the term had fallen out of general usage, and returned to
> being a specialized term for demographers
> .
> On Oct 14, 2010, at 8:34 AM, David A. Tilem wrote:
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>> Jason:
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>> 1. No - DOMA
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>> 2. No - DOMA
>>
>> 3. Yes - marital relationship not required (boyfriend/girlfriend or "posslq"
>> situations)
>>
>>
>>
>> Posslq is one of my favorite govt terms of all time. I leave you all to
>> guess what it means....... and its source......
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> David A. Tilem
>>
>> Certified Bankruptcy Specialist*
>>
>> Law Offices of David A. Tilem (a debt relief agency)
>>
>> 206 N. Jackson Street, #201, Glendale, CA 91206
>>
>> Tel: 818-507-6000 Fax: 818-507-6800
>>
>>
>>
>> * Bankruptcy specialist cert. by State Bar of CA Bd of Legal
>> Specialization.
>>
>> Business bankruptcy specialist cert. by Amer. Bd. of Certification
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
Of
>> Jason Wallach
>> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:00 AM
>> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [cdcbaa] "couple" questions
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone thought about, addressed or even briefed the following:
>> 1. Gay couple has lawful Massachusetts marriage. Can they file a joint
>> bankruptcy petition in California?
>> 2. Gay couple are registered domestic partners in California; can they file
>> a joint bankruptcy petition in California?
>> 3. if they dont (or cant) file a joint petition, can the the non-earning
>> partner be claimed as a dependent or family member for means test or
>> Schedule J purposes?
>> Thoughtful comments welcome, on or off line.
>> Thank you.
>> Jason
>>> - John D. Faucher
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Jason:
There are cases which support my response, though I can't cite chapter and verse by memory.
Hope you all enjoyed my POSSLQ
David A. Tilem
Certified Bankruptcy Specialist*
Law Offices of David A. Tilem (a debt relief agency)
206 N. Jackson Street, #201, Glendale, CA 91206
Tel: 818-507-6000 Fax: 818-507-6800
* Bankruptcy specialist cert. by State Bar of CA Bd of Legal Specialization.
on
ason Wallach
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:49 AM
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] "couple" questions
Dave: Thanks for that. I assume that is a thought-out response,not off the cuff. "Defense of Marriage Act" I will have to check, I thought it might be relevant.
I knew what posslq means, but the derivation isn't a secret, see Wikipedia below.
Thanks again.
Jason
POSSLQ
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Dave: Thanks for that. I assume that is a thought-out response,not off the cuff. "Defense of Marriage Act" I will have to check, I thought it might be relevant.
I knew what posslq means, but the derivation isn't a secret, see Wikipedia below.
Thanks again.
Jason
POSSLQ
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
POSSLQ (pronounced /pslkju/) is an abbreviation (or acronym) for "Persons of Opposite Sex Sharing Living Quarters," a term coined in the late 1970s by the United States Census Bureau as part of an effort to more accurately gauge the prevalence of cohabitation in American households.
After the 1980 Census, the term gained currency in the wider culture for a time. CBS commentator Charles Osgood composed a verse which includes
There's nothing that I wouldn't do
If you would be my POSSLQ
You live with me and I with you,
And you will be my POSSLQ.
I'll be your friend and so much more;
That's what a POSSLQ is for.
Elliot Sperber, the writer of The Hartford Courant's weekly cryptogram, invented a cryptogram that (when solved) said:
"Roses are Red,
Violets are Blue,
Won't you be my POSSLQ?"
After demographers observed the increasing frequency of cohabitation over the 1980s, the Census Bureau began directly asking respondents to their major surveys whether they were "unmarried partners," thus making obsolete the old method of counting cohabitors, which involved a series of assumptions about "Persons of Opposite Sex Sharing Living Quarters." The category "unmarried partner" first appeared in the 1990 Census, and was incorporated into the monthly Current Population Survey starting in 1995. By the late 1990s, the term had fallen out of general usage, and returned to being a specialized term for demographers.
On Oct 14, 2010, at 8:34 AM, David A. Tilem wrote:
>
> Jason:
>
> 1. No - DOMA
> 2. No - DOMA
> 3. Yes - marital relationship not required (boyfriend/girlfriend or "posslq" situations)
>
> Posslq is one of my favorite govt terms of all time. I leave you all to guess what it means....... and its source......
>
>
>
> David A. Tilem
> Certified Bankruptcy Specialist*
> Law Offices of David A. Tilem (a debt relief agency)
> 206 N. Jackson Street, #201, Glendale, CA 91206
> Tel: 818-507-6000 Fax: 818-507-6800
>
> * Bankruptcy specialist cert. by State Bar of CA Bd of Legal Specialization.
> Business bankruptcy specialist cert. by Amer. Bd. of Certification
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
Jason Wallach
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:00 AM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [cdcbaa] "couple" questions
>
>
> Has anyone thought about, addressed or even briefed the following:
> 1. Gay couple has lawful Massachusetts marriage. Can they file a joint bankruptcy petition in California?
> 2. Gay couple are registered domestic partners in California; can they file a joint bankruptcy petition in California?
> 3. if they dont (or cant) file a joint petition, can the the non-earning partner be claimed as a dependent or family member for means test or Schedule J purposes?
> Thoughtful comments welcome, on or off line.
> Thank you.
> Jason
>
> --
> JASON WALLACH, ESQ.
> Gladstone Michel Weisberg Willner & Sloane, ALC
> 4551 Glencoe Avenue, Suite 300
> Marina del Rey CA 90292-7925
> Tel: (310) 821-9000
> Direct: (310) 775-8725
> Fax: (310) 775-8775
> Email: jwallach@ gladstonemichel.com
> www. gladstonemichel.com
>
>
>
>
Dave: Thanks for that. I assume that is a thought-out response,not off the cuff. "Defense of Marriage Act" I will have to check, I thought it might be relevant.I knew what posslq means, but the derivation isn't a secret, see Wikipedia below. Thanks again.JasonPOSSLQFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaPOSSLQ (pronounced /pslkju/) is an abbreviation (or acronym) for "Persons of Opposite Sex Sharing Living Quarters," a term coined in the late 1970s by the United States Census Bureau as part of an effort to more accurately gauge the prevalence of cohabitation in American households.After the CBS commentator Charles Osgood composed a verse which includesThere's nothing that I wouldn't doIf you would be my POSSLQYou live with me and I with you,And you will be my POSSLQ.I'll be your friend and so much more;That's what a POSSLQ is for.Elliot Sperber, the writer of The Hartford Courant's weekly cryptogram, invented a cryptogram that (when solved) said:"Roses are Red,Violets are Blue,Won't you be my POSSLQ?"After demographers observed the increasing frequency of cohabitation over the 1980s, the Census Bureau began directly asking respondents to their major surveys whether they were "unmarried partners," thus making obsolete the old method of counting cohabitors, which involved a series of assumptions about "Persons of Opposite Sex Sharing Living Quarters." The category "unmarried partner" first appeared in the 1990 Census, and was incorporated into the monthly
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Jason:
1. No - DOMA
2. No - DOMA
3. Yes - marital relationship not required (boyfriend/girlfriend or "posslq"
situations)
Posslq is one of my favorite govt terms of all time. I leave you all to
guess what it means....... and its source......
David A. Tilem
Certified Bankruptcy Specialist*
Law Offices of David A. Tilem (a debt relief agency)
206 N. Jackson Street, #201, Glendale, CA 91206
Tel: 818-507-6000 Fax: 818-507-6800
* Bankruptcy specialist cert. by State Bar of CA Bd of Legal
Specialization.
Jason Wallach
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:00 AM
To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cdcbaa] "couple" questions
Has anyone thought about, addressed or even briefed the following:
1. Gay couple has lawful Massachusetts marriage. Can they file a joint
bankruptcy petition in California?
2. Gay couple are registered domestic partners in California; can they file
a joint bankruptcy petition in California?
3. if they dont (or cant) file a joint petition, can the the non-earning
partner be claimed as a dependent or family member for means test or
Schedule J purposes?
Thoughtful comments welcome, on or off line.
Thank you.
Jason
JASON WALLACH, ESQ.
Gladstone Michel Weisberg Willner & Sloane, ALC
4551 Glencoe Avenue, Suite 300
Marina del Rey CA 90292-7925
Tel: (310) 821-9000
Direct: (310) 775-8725
Fax: (310) 775-8775
Email: jwallach@ gladstonemichel.com
www. gladstonemichel.com
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Jason:
1. No -
DOMA
2. No -
DOMA
3. Yes - marital
relationship not required (boyfriend/girlfriend or "posslq"
situations)
Posslq is one of my
favorite govt terms of all time. I leave you all to guess what it
means....... and its source......
David A.
Tilem
Certified Bankruptcy
Specialist*
The post was migrated from Yahoo.
Has anyone thought about, addressed or even briefed the following:
1. Gay couple has lawful Massachusetts marriage. Can they file a joint bankruptcy petition in California?
2. Gay couple are registered domestic partners in California; can they file a joint bankruptcy petition in California?
3. if they dont (or cant) file a joint petition, can the the non-earning partner be claimed as a dependent or family member for means test or Schedule J purposes?
Thoughtful comments welcome, on or off line.
Thank you.
Jason
JASON WALLACH, ESQ.
Gladstone Michel Weisberg Willner & Sloane, ALC
4551 Glencoe Avenue, Suite 300
Marina del Rey CA 90292-7925
Tel: (310) 821-9000
Direct: (310) 775-8725
Fax: (310) 775-8775
Email: jwallach@ gladstonemichel.com
www. gladstonemichel.com
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