New Holographic signature requirement as of 12/1/17

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Once you purchase adobe, you can:
1. Create the petition in Best Case like we did before with the electronic signature pages. Make a copy to your desktop.
2. Then take your signature pages signed by client and throw them in scanner all at once. Adobe lets you easily separate them on your desktop by hitting the extract button a few times.
3. Open the Petition on your desktop. Go to each signature page and hit replace. Save Petition.
4. Replace it with the one in Best Case. Good to go!
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> On Dec 9, 2017, at 6:26 PM, 'Christie C.' cronenwethlaw@yahoo.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> Thats exactly what I ended up doing. You just hit replace and its all good!
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> Christie Cronenweth
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>> On Dec 9, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Shannon Doyle sdoyle@ebankruptcyassistants.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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>> Trying to brainstorm this. Heres a thought for those that need to insert signature pages electronically. Once you get your wet signatures:
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>> Print the petition in pfd format without signature pages>> Insert the signature pages with dual screens and the organize pages feature in adobe this is a quick drag and drop process
>> Save and replace the petition generated in Best Case ECF manager, then file
>>
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>> At least you knock out the step of having to delete all the /s/ pages. Otherwise, you can still drag and drop signature pages into the pdf generated by ECF manager. You just have to delete the /s/ pages. Hey, I remember when we used to have to mail in the original signed petition, blue backed with 5 copies
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>> In any event, I file petitions for attorneys in several other jurisdictions and in those jurisdictions that require wet signatures, the Court has an event code for the signature pages to be uploaded in one pdf. Much easier. Maybe we can talk to the rules committee.
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>> Shannon A. Doyle
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>> Attorney | Virtual Bankruptcy Assistant
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>> Phone: 855-378-4080
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>> Fax: 562-249-8435
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>> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 11:08 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Re: New Holographic signature requirement as of 12/1/17
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>> Hi hear you Sam. The only thing I can suggest, other than the court increasing their capacity, is to purchase Adobe Pro DC. It will allow you to easily replace the signature pages where they should go into the petition. >>
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>> I tried buying a brand new scanner with no change. The Adobe costs $14.99/month.
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>> Happy Holidays!
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>> Christie Cronenweth
>>
>> Law Offices of Christie Cronenweth
>> 25202 Crenshaw Blvd., Suite 207
>> Torrance, CA 90505
>> 310-257-4995 ph
>> 310-257-4996 fx
>> cronenwethlaw@yahoo.com
>> www.cronenwethlaw.com
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>> The Law Offices of Christie Cronenweth is a debt relief agency engaged in the practice of aiding people to file for bankruptcy under the Bankruptcy Code.
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>> On Dec 9, 2017, at 10:45 AM, sam@southbaybk.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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>> I've tried everything too Christie - including getting my printer maintenance people out.
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Thats exactly what I ended up doing. You just hit replace and it
Christie Cronenweth
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25202 Crenshaw Blvd., Suite 207
Torrance, CA 90505
310-257-4995 ph
310-257-4996 fx
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www.cronenwethlaw.com
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The Law Offices of Christie Cronenweth is a debt relief agency engaged in the practice of aiding people to file for bankruptcy under the Bankruptcy Code.
> On Dec 9, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Shannon Doyle sdoyle@ebankruptcyassistants.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> Trying to brainstorm this. Heres a thought for those that need to insert signature pages electronically. Once you get your wet signatures:
>
>
>
> Print the petition in pfd format without signature pages> Insert the signature pages with dual screens and the organize pages feature in adobe this is a quick drag and drop process
> Save and replace the petition generated in Best Case ECF manager, then file
>
>
> At least you knock out the step of having to delete all the /s/ pages. Otherwise, you can still drag and drop signature pages into the pdf generated by ECF manager. You just have to delete the /s/ pages. Hey, I remember when we used to have to mail in the original signed petition, blue backed with 5 copies
>
>
>
> In any event, I file petitions for attorneys in several other jurisdictions and in those jurisdictions that require wet signatures, the Court has an event code for the signature pages to be uploaded in one pdf. Much easier. Maybe we can talk to the rules committee.
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> Shannon A. Doyle
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> Attorney | Virtual Bankruptcy Assistant
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> Phone: 855-378-4080
>
> Fax: 562-249-8435
>
> Licensed in California
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> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 11:08 AM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Re: New Holographic signature requirement as of 12/1/17
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> Hi hear you Sam. The only thing I can suggest, other than the court increasing their capacity, is to purchase Adobe Pro DC. It will allow you to easily replace the signature pages where they should go into the petition. >
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> I tried buying a brand new scanner with no change. The Adobe costs $14.99/month.
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> Happy Holidays!
>
> Christie Cronenweth
>
> Law Offices of Christie Cronenweth
> 25202 Crenshaw Blvd., Suite 207
> Torrance, CA 90505
> 310-257-4995 ph
> 310-257-4996 fx
> cronenwethlaw@yahoo.com
> www.cronenwethlaw.com
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> The Law Offices of Christie Cronenweth is a debt relief agency engaged in the practice of aiding people to file for bankruptcy under the Bankruptcy Code.
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> On Dec 9, 2017, at 10:45 AM, sam@southbaybk.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> I've tried everything too Christie - including getting my printer maintenance people out.
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Hi hear you Sam. The only thing I can suggest, other than the court increasing their capacity, is to purchase Adobe Pro DC. It will allow you to easily replace the signature pages where they should go into the petition.
I tried buying a brand new scanner with no change. The Adobe costs $14.99/month.
Happy Holidays!
Christie Cronenweth
Law Offices of Christie Cronenweth
25202 Crenshaw Blvd., Suite 207
Torrance, CA 90505
310-257-4995 ph
310-257-4996 fx
cronenwethlaw@yahoo.com
www.cronenwethlaw.com
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> On Dec 9, 2017, at 10:45 AM, sam@southbaybk.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> I've tried everything too Christie - including getting my printer maintenance people out.
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I've routinely filed Petitions, Motions etc that are well over the 2 MB
limit. The largest file has been around 8-9 MB. Yes, the warning comes up
before filing but it always goes through.
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Did that as well. Scanned at 100dpi, 150dpi, and 200dpi...no ocr.
The only one under 2MBs was 100dpi, which was fairly illegible. The others came in at 5MBs, 8MBs and even 13MBs. This was the case with old scanner and brand new one.
Twas a fun day.
Christie Cronenweth
Law Offices of Christie Cronenweth
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Torrance, CA 90505
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> On Dec 8, 2017, at 2:37 PM, GMAIL Webblaw@Gmail.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 2:26 PM
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> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Re: New Holographic signature requirement as of 12/1/17
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> Tried reducing size, etc...tried everything.
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> Christie Cronenweth
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> Law Offices of Christie Cronenweth
> 25202 Crenshaw Blvd., Suite 207
> Torrance, CA 90505
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> The Law Offices of Christie Cronenweth is a debt relief agency engaged in the practice of aiding people to file for bankruptcy under the Bankruptcy Code.
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> On Dec 8, 2017, at 2:18 PM, 'Mark J. Markus' bklawr@yahoo.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> There you go. :)
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> On 12/8/2017 2:04 PM, Shannon Doyle sdoyle@ebankruptcyassistants.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
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> Im assuming you are physically meeting with the client. Print petition. Client signs petition while keeping pages in order. Scan petition. No need to remove or insert signature pages. If you are doing a remote signing and having the client just send back signature pages then yes I see your dilemma.
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> Shannon A. Doyle
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> Attorney | Virtual Bankruptcy Assistant
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> Phone: 855-378-4080
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> Fax: 562-249-8435
>
> Licensed in California
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> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 1:44 PM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Re: New Holographic signature requirement as of 12/1/17
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> Because the actual signature pages have to be inserted in the proper order.
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> On 12/8/2017 12:44 PM, Shannon Doyle sdoyle@ebankruptcyassistants.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
>
> Why are you inserting signature pages? Why not just scan the entire signed petition in as one pdf, replace it with the one Best Case generates and rename accordingly? One touch. Boom youre done.
>
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>
> It is the same process you had to do before with the credit counseling cert, statement of social security number and employer cert. Now you just do it with the petition as well.
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> Shannon A. Doyle
>
> Attorney | Virtual Bankruptcy Assistant
>
> Phone: 855-378-4080
>
> Fax: 562-249-8435
>
> Licensed in California
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 10:27 AM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [cdcbaa] Re: New Holographic signature requirement as of 12/1/17
>
>
>
>
>
> I have now filed 5 cases this month. No matter how its done (print out petition, insert signature pages, scan back in VS insert PDF of "wet" signature pages behind the electronic signature pages in Best Case) - and both methods suck.
>
>
>
> A person at Best Case told me that CDC may be the only jurisdiction doing it this way. Apparently the more common practice now evolving is to create a pdf of all of the signature pages and file them separately from the electronically signed compete petition. Basically file the way we have for the past 12 years and upload a PDF of all wet signatures in lieu of uploading only the Electronic Filing Declaration.
>
>
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> Is there any discussion from anyone involved with any bench bar committees that have raised this (or may be willing to raise this) to the judges? I believe this would greatly simplify the process for practitioners and still meet the apparent goal of wet signatures on file.
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Tried reducing size, etc...tried everything.
Christie Cronenweth
Law Offices of Christie Cronenweth
25202 Crenshaw Blvd., Suite 207
Torrance, CA 90505
310-257-4995 ph
310-257-4996 fx
cronenwethlaw@yahoo.com
www.cronenwethlaw.com
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> On Dec 8, 2017, at 2:18 PM, 'Mark J. Markus' bklawr@yahoo.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
>
> There you go. :)
>
>> On 12/8/2017 2:04 PM, Shannon Doyle sdoyle@ebankruptcyassistants.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
>> Im assuming you are physically meeting with the client. Print petition. Client signs petition while keeping pages in order. Scan petition. No need to remove or insert signature pages. If you are doing a remote signing and having the client just send back signature pages then yes I see your dilemma.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Shannon A. Doyle
>>
>> Attorney | Virtual Bankruptcy Assistant
>>
>> Phone: 855-378-4080
>>
>> Fax: 562-249-8435
>>
>> Licensed in California
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 1:44 PM
>> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [cdcbaa] Re: New Holographic signature requirement as of 12/1/17
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Because the actual signature pages have to be inserted in the proper order.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/8/2017 12:44 PM, Shannon Doyle sdoyle@ebankruptcyassistants.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
>>
>> Why are you inserting signature pages? Why not just scan the entire signed petition in as one pdf, replace it with the one Best Case generates and rename accordingly? One touch. Boom youre done.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is the same process you had to do before with the credit counseling cert, statement of social security number and employer cert. Now you just do it with the petition as well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Shannon A. Doyle
>>
>> Attorney | Virtual Bankruptcy Assistant
>>
>> Phone: 855-378-4080
>>
>> Fax: 562-249-8435
>>
>> Licensed in California
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 10:27 AM
>> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [cdcbaa] Re: New Holographic signature requirement as of 12/1/17
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I have now filed 5 cases this month. No matter how its done (print out petition, insert signature pages, scan back in VS insert PDF of "wet" signature pages behind the electronic signature pages in Best Case) - and both methods suck.
>>
>>
>>
>> A person at Best Case told me that CDC may be the only jurisdiction doing it this way. Apparently the more common practice now evolving is to create a pdf of all of the signature pages and file them separately from the electronically signed compete petition. Basically file the way we have for the past 12 years and upload a PDF of all wet signatures in lieu of uploading only the Electronic Filing Declaration.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there any discussion from anyone involved with any bench bar committees that have raised this (or may be willing to raise this) to the judges? I believe this would greatly simplify the process for practitioners and still meet the apparent goal of wet signatures on file.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Virus-free. www.avg.com
>>
>> --
>>
>> *************************
>> Mark J. Markus
>> Law Office of Mark J. Markus
>> Mailing Address Only:
>> 11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
>> Studio City, CA 91604-2652
>> (818)509-1173 (818)332-1180 (fax)
>> web: http://www.bklaw.com/
>> Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization
>> This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency
>> ________________________________________________
>> NOTICE: This Electronic Message contains information from the law office of Mark J. Markus that may be privileged. The information is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, note that any disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited.
>> IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. tax advice contained in this communication (or in any attachment) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed in this communication.
>>
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> Mailing Address Only:
> 11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
> Studio City, CA 91604-2652
> (818)509-1173 (818)332-1180 (fax)
> web: http://www.bklaw.com/
> Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist--The State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization
> This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency
> ________________________________________________
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There you go. :)
On 12/8/2017 2:04 PM, Shannon Doyle sdoyle@ebankruptcyassistants.com
[cdcbaa] wrote:
>
>
> I’m assuming you are physically meeting with the client. Print
> petition. Client signs petition while keeping pages in order. Scan
> petition. No need to remove or insert signature pages.  If you are
> doing a remote signing and having the client just send back
> signature pages then yes I see your dilemma.
>
> New Professional Pic2
>
> Shannon A. Doyle
>
> *Attorney | Virtual Bankruptcy Assistant*
>
> *Phone: 855-378-4080*
>
> *Fax: 562-249-8435*
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> *Licensed in California*
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> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, December 08, 2017 1:44 PM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [cdcbaa] Re: New Holographic signature requirement
> as of 12/1/17
>
> Because the actual signature pages have to be inserted in the
> proper order.
>
> On 12/8/2017 12:44 PM, Shannon Doyle
> sdoyle@ebankruptcyassistants.com
> [cdcbaa] wrote:
>
> Why are you inserting signature pages?  Why not just scan the
> entire signed petition in as one pdf, replace it with the one
> Best Case generates and rename accordingly? One touch. Boom
> you’re done.
>
> It is the same process you had to do before with the credit
> counseling cert, statement of social security number and
> employer cert. Now you  just do it with the petition as well.
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> as of 12/1/17
>
> I have now filed 5 cases this month. No matter how its done
> (print out petition, insert signature pages, scan back in VS
> insert PDF of "wet" signature pages behind the
> electronic signature pages in Best Case) - and both methods suck.
>
> A person at Best Case told me that CDC may be the only
> jurisdiction doing it this way. Apparently the more common
> practice now evolving is to create a pdf of all of the
> signature pages and file them separately from the
> electronically signed compete petition. Basically file the way
> we have for the past 12 years and upload a PDF of all wet
> signatures in lieu of uploading only the Electronic Filing
> Declaration.
>
> Is there any discussion from anyone involved with any bench
> bar committees that have raised this (or may be willing to
> raise this) to the judges?  I believe this would greatly
> simplify the process for practitioners and still meet the
> apparent goal of wet signatures on file.
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Because the actual signature pages have to be inserted in the proper
order.
On 12/8/2017 12:44 PM, Shannon Doyle
sdoyle@ebankruptcyassistants.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
>
>
> Why are you inserting signature pages?  Why not just scan the
> entire signed petition in as one pdf, replace it with the one Best
> Case generates and rename accordingly? One touch. Boom you’re done.
>
> It is the same process you had to do before with the credit
> counseling cert, statement of social security number and employer
> cert. Now you  just do it with the petition as well.
>
> New Professional Pic2
>
> Shannon A. Doyle
>
> *Attorney | Virtual Bankruptcy Assistant*
>
> *Phone: 855-378-4080*
>
> *Fax: 562-249-8435*
>
> *Licensed in California*
>
> **
>
> *From:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, December 08, 2017 10:27 AM
> *To:* cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [cdcbaa] Re: New Holographic signature requirement as
> of 12/1/17
>
> I have now filed 5 cases this month. No matter how its done (print
> out petition, insert signature pages, scan back in VS insert PDF
> of "wet" signature pages behind the electronic signature pages in
> Best Case) - and both methods suck.
>
> A person at Best Case told me that CDC may be the only
> jurisdiction doing it this way.  Apparently the more common
> practice now evolving is to create a pdf of all of the signature
> pages and file them separately from the electronically signed
> compete petition. Basically file the way we have for the past 12
> years and upload a PDF of all wet signatures in lieu of
> uploading only the Electronic Filing Declaration.
>
> Is there any discussion from anyone involved with any bench bar
> committees that have raised this (or may be willing to raise this)
> to the judges?  I believe this would greatly simplify the process
> for practitioners and still meet the apparent goal of wet
> signatures on file.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Virus-free. www.avg.com
>
>
>
>
*************************
Mark J. Markus
Law Office of Mark J. Markus
_*Mailing Address Only:*_
11684 Ventura Blvd. PMB #403
Studio City, CA 91604-2652
(818)509-1173 (818)332-1180 (fax)
web: http://www.bklaw.com/
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Board of Legal Specialization
This Firm is a Qualified Federal Debt Relief Agency
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Hi Shannon,
That may work for some, but I spent hours yesterday attempting to make my single pdf a low enough resolution to be accepted by the court.
I tried through my old scanner, through my new shiny, scanner, as well as through Best Scan. No matter what I did the petition would come out to be either illegible or too big for the courts 2 MBs limit.
In my frustration, I thought it seemed ridiculous they would require this without increasing their own ability to accept a larger document.
But...what do I know. I eventually figured it out. In addition to purchasing a brand new scanner, I purchased Adobe Pro DC for $15/month. Now I can replace the pages easily.
Hope that information helps others....
And Happy Holidays to everyone. I very much appreciate all of you.
Christie Cronenweth
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> On Dec 8, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Shannon Doyle sdoyle@ebankruptcyassistants.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
>
> Why are you inserting signature pages? Why not just scan the entire signed petition in as one pdf, replace it with the one Best Case generates and rename accordingly? One touch. Boom youre done.
>
>
>
> It is the same process you had to do before with the credit counseling cert, statement of social security number and employer cert. Now you just do it with the petition as well.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Shannon A. Doyle
>
> Attorney | Virtual Bankruptcy Assistant
>
> Phone: 855-378-4080
>
> Fax: 562-249-8435
>
> Licensed in California
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 10:27 AM
> To: cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [cdcbaa] Re: New Holographic signature requirement as of 12/1/17
>
>
>
>
>
> I have now filed 5 cases this month. No matter how its done (print out petition, insert signature pages, scan back in VS insert PDF of "wet" signature pages behind the electronic signature pages in Best Case) - and both methods suck.
>
>
>
> A person at Best Case told me that CDC may be the only jurisdiction doing it this way. Apparently the more common practice now evolving is to create a pdf of all of the signature pages and file them separately from the electronically signed compete petition. Basically file the way we have for the past 12 years and upload a PDF of all wet signatures in lieu of uploading only the Electronic Filing Declaration.
>
>
>
> Is there any discussion from anyone involved with any bench bar committees that have raised this (or may be willing to raise this) to the judges? I believe this would greatly simplify the process for practitioners and still meet the apparent goal of wet signatures on file.
>
>
>
Christie CronenwethLaw Offices of Christie Cronenweth25202 Crenshaw Blvd., Suite 207Torrance, CA 90505310-257-4995 ph 310-257-4996 fx cronenwethlaw@yahoo.comwww.cronenwethlaw.comConfidentiality The information contained in this email message is legally privilegedand confidential information intended only for the use of the individualor entity named. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient,you are advised not to read the attachments and you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this email is strictly prohibited. This email is an Attorney-Client communication, and an Attorney-Client work product.If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify us by telephone and delete the email. Thank you.The Law Offices of Christie Cronenweth is a debt relief agency engaged in the practice of aiding people to file for bankruptcy under the Bankruptcy Code.On Dec 8, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Shannon Doyle
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